Splitshoting Fluoro or Mono?

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Splitshoting Fluoro or Mono?

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Is it best to use fluoro with a mojo weight or Mono with a splitshot.
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Fluoro for sure!!!!!!!!!!!
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Do you use the mojo? or ?
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I use flouro a lot when I split shot. For bigger baits, the sinking properties of flouro don't really make a difference. I usually won't fish it on anything smaller than a 4,5" Robo. Also, I typically use a heavier Mojo with a larger bait, i.e. I'll use a 1/4 oz. in deeper water with a 6" Robo. But for small baits like leeches and smaller grubs, I'll throw 4-6lb. Maxima on a light action rod. This is kind of my "emergency" outfit. When I can't get a bite on anything else, I'll try a little worm or leech on this outfit with 4lb. Maxima and a light splitshot or darterhead.
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dockboy wrote:I use flouro a lot when I split shot. For bigger baits, the sinking properties of flouro don't really make a difference. I usually won't fish it on anything smaller than a 4,5" Robo. Also, I typically use a heavier Mojo with a larger bait, i.e. I'll use a 1/4 oz. in deeper water with a 6" Robo. But for small baits like leeches and smaller grubs, I'll throw 4-6lb. Maxima on a light action rod. This is kind of my "emergency" outfit. When I can't get a bite on anything else, I'll try a little worm or leech on this outfit with 4lb. Maxima and a light splitshot or darterhead.
4-6# Daiwa Def Bass Fluorocarbon with various finesse plastics. I use the traditional round split shot (without the removable feature) pinched on a few wrappings of paper towel to prevent line damage and slippage.
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Fluoro for me hands down.
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6lb. Green Maxima all the way!!! I love Flouro and fish the heavy stuff all the time on the C-Rig, but.......Try hooking a fish over 8lbs running into some cover on your 6lb knicked up flouro??? Doesnt work so well.......I love the light line, boated 2 over 15lb on 6lb. maxima, lost 4 toads in one summer of experimenting with 6lb flouro......You do the math.
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Sunline Super FC Sniper 5 and 6 lb test doesn't ever break on me. I also don't throw it in shallow cover either obviously and I line check all the time with anything I'm fishing.

Also, since I'm fishing for numbers of average or slightly above average fish then the properties of a super high quality fluoro far out weight any monos. (in my opinion)

Years ago when I heard first hand that guys like Aaron Martins, Skeet, and more than half of the other guys who fish for a living were using fluoro on 75% of their rods it was worth investigating.

I've found the cheap to moderately cheap fluoro's are not as good as the Japan brands.

(Nice fish pics too Shawn...)
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A little off topic, however the difference between crimping a round split (spilt shot technique) onto your line verses using a stopper with a sliding sinker (slip shot technique) is maybe a better question than line type.
Crimping a weight onto either monofilament or fluorocarbon results in the same problem; line degradation due to flatting the line and weakening it. There are several tricks to the trade like; crimping the shot, then pulling the line to cut a round hole and recrimping, removing the degraded line caused from the intial crimp.
Why crimp in the first place? Use a bead with a rubber stopper or Carolina stopper directly onto the main line with one knot at the hook; the slip shot rig. I know the late Dick Trask's developed the split shot rig using round shot and he believed that the shot should be stationary on the line to give the soft plastic better or more natural movement. Been there, done that and IMO the slip shot a more effective presentation and you feel the strike faster.
Fluorocarbon line tends to sink and the line belly that can create lays on the bottom, dampens the sensitivity and pulls the worm down closer or onto the bottom. Fluorocarbon is also knot sensitive, however with it's less stretch can be an advantage in hook setting.
I prefer a high quality mono for slip shotting, fluoro for drop shotting. Can't remember when I split shot rigged, it's been a long time.
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I fished a spit shot rig last Saturday for the first time since I started using flouro four years ago.
I use Bass Pro Shops flouro. Cheap, and every bit as good as Sniper, which I fished for the year I used flouro. And it handles kinks better than Sniper.
Funny thing was, I couldn't pinch the split shot down tight enough on the flouro to keep it from slipping. No dents, abrasions, or flat spots on the 8lb flouro either. It would just slip.
I finally went back to using a sliding tungsten sinker, glass bead, and rubber nail, and no more slipping.
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Coming from the northwest, I used the split shot rig (mojo weights) a lot. Fluoro is what I used on that rig too.
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I use fluoro for both...if you use a light enough hook and depending on what bait your split shotting, it will still float off the bottom. I use mojo sinkers with a rubber nail, no slippage and no damage.
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jsoregon wrote:I fished a spit shot rig last Saturday for the first time since I started using flouro four years ago.
I use Bass Pro Shops flouro. Cheap, and every bit as good as Sniper, which I fished for the year I used flouro. And it handles kinks better than Sniper.
Funny thing was, I couldn't pinch the split shot down tight enough on the flouro to keep it from slipping. No dents, abrasions, or flat spots on the 8lb flouro either. It would just slip.
I finally went back to using a sliding tungsten sinker, glass bead, and rubber nail, and no more slipping.
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so sniper is inferior to bps ? I just bought some sniper :x
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Super FC Sniper is what I use. I've used BPS Fluoro too, its actually not bad. But the Sniper is stronger line. I can break the 6lb BPS fluoro on a straight pull w/o much effort, but the 6lb Sniper and even the 5lb Sniper are harder to break!

The diameters are the same I believe or the Sniper might even be a little bit smaller.
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Dude old school are you crazy? Flour is not sensitve, I beg to differ. it sinks , yes it does sink ,but when you splitshot you are usually using 5-6#line so the sink ratio is minimium, plus very little do people stay in one place split shotting they usually do what someguy?? Take it easy turbo don't get all crazy. They drag so the bait is constantly moving and coming off the bottom anyhow. Next sensitivty doesn't little stretch mean yor goingto feel the bite sooner, and better. I may be crazy ,but this one oldschool is definatly not your topic maybe the fishing method fits, but line you are crazy wrong.
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Some guy, it was not me!!!! There goes the neighborhood!!
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Sinjin Kim wrote: 4-6# Daiwa Def Bass Fluorocarbon with various finesse plastics. I use the traditional round split shot (without the removable feature) pinched on a few wrappings of paper towel to prevent line damage and slippage.
Hey Sinjin Kim. I learned from Aaron Martins to use a small peice of heat shink tubing in between your line and the split shot. Its little more protection.

Just thought I'd pass that tip along...I've never tried paper towel.

I also used a real split shot, specially up on the Columbia River in Oregon.
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hippie wrote:Dude old school are you crazy? Flour is not sensitve, I beg to differ. it sinks , yes it does sink ,but when you splitshot you are usually using 5-6#line so the sink ratio is minimium, plus very little do people stay in one place split shotting they usually do what someguy?? Take it easy turbo don't get all crazy. They drag so the bait is constantly moving and coming off the bottom anyhow. Next sensitivty doesn't little stretch mean yor goingto feel the bite sooner, and better. I may be crazy ,but this one oldschool is definatly not your topic maybe the fishing method fits, but line you are crazy wrong.
It's apparent that your sensitivity is high. I have been called a lot things and crazy a few times as well. I use FC Sniper for my 6 lb fluorocarbon and know exactly what I'm talking about. How do you think we managed to catch bass before fluoro came along? Fluorocarbon line has it's place but it's not the panacea for fishing line. We will just agree to disagree and move on.
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huh!?!?! :shock: Did someone say.........................? :shock:


Hey Hippie just squeeze lemon juice on it. Im sure they are just ingrown hairs...dont trip.
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jsoregon wrote:
Sinjin Kim wrote: 4-6# Daiwa Def Bass Fluorocarbon with various finesse plastics. I use the traditional round split shot (without the removable feature) pinched on a few wrappings of paper towel to prevent line damage and slippage.
Hey Sinjin Kim. I learned from Aaron Martins to use a small peice of heat shink tubing in between your line and the split shot. Its little more protection.

Just thought I'd pass that tip along...I've never tried paper towel.

I also used a real split shot, specially up on the Columbia River in Oregon.
I've read Aaron's article where he discusses the shrink tubing, but have no idea where to obtain it. The paper towel trick is quick and I have yet to lose a fish using it.

Just tear a piece that is SLIGHTLY wider than the split shot and about an inch long. Roll it tight to the line and pinch the shot. That simple.
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The reason that FC is more sensitive then nylon is because of its higher density. The FC will sink due to its density being greater then water which will decrease the bow in the line. The bow that is generated with lighter lines decreases feedback. The bow acts like a slack line.
hippie wrote:Dude old school are you crazy? Flour is not sensitve, I beg to differ. it sinks , yes it does sink ,but when you splitshot you are usually using 5-6#line so the sink ratio is minimium, plus very little do people stay in one place split shotting they usually do what someguy?? Take it easy turbo don't get all crazy. They drag so the bait is constantly moving and coming off the bottom anyhow. Next sensitivty doesn't little stretch mean yor goingto feel the bite sooner, and better. I may be crazy ,but this one oldschool is definatly not your topic maybe the fishing method fits, but line you are crazy wrong.
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15lb braid to 6lb leader and everyones happy. The leader will be only 8ft long or so. I use small spectra with a 5 ft leader of flouro just because i think flouro gets bit better, infact i know it gets bit better. Crimp your weight right on the braid and your styling. Simple as that. 8)
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Oldschool wrote:How do you think we managed to catch bass before fluoro came along?
Just to add a comment, I don't think anyone is saying we didn't catch bass before fluoro was out. But a lot of people report they catch more fish now and equate it to the advantages of fluoro (amongst other things probably too.)
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