******SWIMBAITS ONLY EVENT @ DON PEDRO******BIG $$$$$$$

RMANZO · Post by **RMANZO** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:36 pm

SWIMBAIT"SLUGG"FEST.... AMERICAN BASS "MOTHERLODE", AND ABT LURES PRESENTS THE FIRST ANNUAL "SWIMBAITS ONLY" TEAM TOURNEY... JANUARY 26,2008...LIMITED TO "65" TEAMS... THIS EVENT SHOULD FILL UP, SO YOU MUST SEND IN A $100 DEP. BY JAN.
12,2008 TO HOLD YOUR SPOT...ENTRY FEE: $515 PER TEAM(BIGFISH
BBQ, RAFFLE, $5 CONS/$10 INS. INCLUDED). 2 FISH LIMIT PER TEAM
****PAYOUT****
65 TEAMS
1ST=$6500 5TH=$1750 9TH=$1100 BIGGEST BASS=$1500
2ND=$4000 6TH=$1500 10TH=$800 2ND BIGGEST=$1000
3RD=$2500 7TH=$1300 11TH=$700 3RD BIGGEST=$750
4TH=$2000 8TH=$1200 12TH=$600 CLOSEST-TO-6LB=$500
13TH=$550 CLOSEST-TO-5LB=$500
CALL:ROBERT MANSOR(209)852-2678 OR rmanzos@aol.com
**POLY. TEST WILL BE GIVEN TO "RANDOMLY SELECTED" $$$$$$
WINNERS!!![/u][/b]

ash · Post by **ash** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:32 am

Are you going to define swimbaits? There are a wide variety of baits out there that are now classified as such. Really cant a darthead with grub trailer be a swimbait? That is all the AA Hammer is a large dart head on a large paddel tail grub trailer?

RMANZO · Post by **RMANZO** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:45 am

YA.... IF YOU GET REAL TECHNICAL, I GUESS YOU COULD CALL A JIG THAT YOU REEL IN A "SWIMBAIT"!!!!! NO,,,, I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHAT A SWIMBAIT IS!!!!! IF I WAS FISHING A TOURNEY,"SWIMBAITS ONLY", AND JOE BLOW WAS THROWING A "TROUT" BAIT, I DON'T THINK I WOULD BE THROWING A DARTER HEADED GRUB?????? BY THE WAY,,,, JOE BLOW IS A GREAT FISHERMAN:):):):)

RMARX · Post by **RMARX** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:47 am

yOUR RIGHT! Pay your 500.00 and come and weigh in two dart head fish! That works for me!

Phil · Post by **Phil** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:40 am

HEY DOBYNS, HERE YA GO, YOU BEEN COMMENTING ON COMING DOWN AND FISHING WITH BUB, WELL A PERFECT TIME FOR YOU AND BUB TO COME AND FISH SWIMBAITS AT DON PEDRO.........MYSELF NO THANKS, I DO NOT DECLARE TO BE A SWIMBAIT FISHERMEN. I WOULD BE THE ONE SWIMMING THE SPIDER GRUB ON THE DARTHEAD >>>>HAHA.

I GUESS ITS CAST IN STONE, ROBERT LEFT THE FLYER HERE THIS MORNING FOR THE TOURNAMENT !

WE (JIGS) WILL BE THERE TO HELP SUPPORT IT TURN A HOT DOG SPOON SOME BEANS AND HELP !!

GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL !!

JIGS

ash · Post by **ash** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:49 am

Wow you are definatly a customer freindly guy.... I was thinking back to the 1st Snag Proof where the definitions of frog fishing was stretched..... sounds to me like maybe DL down south was dead on.

So let me get this strait -

This is a swimbait only touranment with Poly Graphs - but you are leaving it up to the competors to define swimbait....and you disclude that a Big Hammer is a swimbait? So what if you the TD dont create distinctions, then how the hell will anybody fail the POLY or understand the rules?

CV · Post by CV » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:56 am

You guys are killin me, that's a messed up time to have that tournament. You know I'd be there but putting this tournament the day after the Big Bass Classic down south sucks!!! IMHO

I'm nutz, but driving 400 miles after fishing the whole day in an event I plan on winning and arriving late that nite to freeze me *** off in my truck waiting for your tournament to start the next morning would kill me for sure so I'm gunna have to miss it.. wish I didn't have too..

Big Baits on Pedro in Jan.. killin me..

CV

Phil · Post by **Phil** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:13 pm

WELL ROBERT , SOUNDS AS IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SPELL IT OUT......ONLY HUDS, MATT LURES, REACTION STRIKE BASS HARASSER'S, CASTIACS, OPTIMUM, ABT'S, LA SLIDERS, LITTLE ANTHONY'S, BASSTRIX AND THE LIKES OF THAT KIND. AND A FEW MORE.............GUESS YOU MAYBE BETTER LIST WHAT IS OK TO USE JUST LIKE SNAG PROFF FROG ONLY THIS NEXT YEAR NO JIGS !!

GOOD LUCK AND WE WILL BE THERE FOR HELP AND SUPPORT, AND EAT YOUR FOOD HAHA !!!

JIGS

basshunter4u · Post by **basshunter4u** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:44 pm

Yup I agree with CV thats bogus. You guys have known about this heavyweight bass gig at casitas for a month and you have it on the day after, Us nor cal guys want in but thats way out. Lets have it the next weekend. Its far enough out to change it right? Just hoping to swing both but kinda tight with a 6 hour drive between lakes next day

DO

www.swimbaitcity.com

STONEFREE · Post by **STONEFREE** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:27 pm

Look at nor. cal. BLOWIN UP Alright, lets see how this comes together, Im interested, anyone else, speak up, FEED BACK.

oakview · Post by **oakview** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:11 pm

Hell, I'm down here 2 miles from casitas...I would love to come up there a give it a go...I just don't think I can swing it like most of the guys coming down here to fish the HBC...

I would be willing to make it that way if I had week in between tournaments, at least...

Never fished the lake but it would be cool to fish a huge lake and see all you northern cal guys fishing your home water...

Just my 2cents...

D.

evenflo · Post by **evenflo** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:22 pm

SOWB_Hawghunter, 4 letters buddy....STFU. You're such a jackass. All you do is kiss everyone's *** and make dumb *** comments. It's time to go away for a while.

green_monster · Post by **green_monster** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:38 pm

evenflo, whats your problem? you only have a few comments on here and they are all negative towards SOWB. How bout you try to contribute something positive and meaningful to WB...

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:48 pm

green_monster wrote:evenflo, whats your problem? you only have a few comments on here and they are all negative towards SOWB. How bout you try to contribute something positive and meaningful to WB...

Time for Gator to do a little IP tracking and see who he really is.

bassindon69 · Post by **bassindon69** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:52 pm

I will be south too.

Don.

Phil · Post by **Phil** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:03 am

PEOPLE; PLEASE DO NOT PM ME OR EMAIL ME ASKING IF THIS OR THAT IS CONSIDERED A SWIMBAIT. THIS IS NOT MY TOURNAMENT, I AM ONLY GOING TO HELP WITH THE FOOD PART OF IT, (MAYBE FISH IT)??? EMAIL (RMANZOS@AOL.COM) FOR ANY QUESTIONS REGUARDING HIS TOURNAMENT.

I WOULD BE THE GUY SWIMING THE SPIDER JIG, HULA GRUB ANYWAY !!! AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, ANYTHING THAT SWIMS IS A SWIMBAIT, I PROBABLY USED THEM BACK IN THE 60'S 70'S WHEN MISTER TWISTER CAME OUT WITH THE SASSY SHAD, CAUGHT TONS OF FISH ON IT AND DIDN'T EVEN THINK OF THE WORD SWIMBAIT BACK THEN. THINK ABOUT THAT !!

THANK YOU

JGS

Joe W. · Post by **Joe W.** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:11 am

People know what a swimbait is. A jig is not a swimbait, a spider grub is not a swimbait. Why are people always looking to stretch the rules? You all know what they mean when they say swimbait only. If you don't, I'd love to hear some baits that you think are questionable or that you feel should be called a "swimbait"

tunaman · Post by **tunaman** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:34 am

Joe W. wrote:If you don't, I'd love to hear some baits that you think are questionable or that you feel should be called a "swimbait"

How about some of these?

And these?

Or maybe these?

Or...

In fact, the scope of "swimbaits" is far and wide... from little rubber minnow-style lures to massive conglomerations made from pool queues and such, and everything in between.

And if I'm throwing a LA Slider and dragging it ever so slowly across the bottom, does that constitute a swimbait or dragging rig?

This whole debate came up many months ago on the Southern board, and it became very clear that the criteria would have to be very clearly spelled out in order to be fair, equitable and successful. I think that's what some are trying to say here as well... I don't believe the 'threat' of a "random" polygraph test is sufficient to marshall the event... as Jonathan stated it would never hold up. I'd urge the first-year TD to think this through, seek counsel and guidance from some of the more experienced Directors, and plan as thoroughly as possible... then enjoy a successful event.

Good luck!
Roger

Johnny C · Post by **Johnny C** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:37 am

Damn I'll be at the three inch worm drop shot only tournament that day!!!!..Just kidding, good luck with the event Robert.

bassindon69 · Post by **bassindon69** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:42 am

Right JOE!
You are kidding me people!

There is always a "gray area" to some because they look for that gray area

. It should be cut and dry to you, it is to me. If you don't know what a swimbait is you should not fish it. The only gray area to me is the dishonest people who fish. Whats wrong you can't get any on a Hudd, 3:16 baits, BBZ,Triple trout, Ms slammer, Basstrix, Matt lures, the list goes on.... I guess not because e-mails are going out asking if this is a swimbait

UNREAL!!!

Don.

Joe W. · Post by **Joe W.** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:45 am

Tunaman, those are all swimbaits you just posted. Size shouldn't matter, but I'm willing to bet guys throwing the bigger stuff will stick the bigger fish. So if you want to throw a 3-4" storm bait you're probably putting yourself at a disadvantage anyway.

tunaman · Post by **tunaman** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:52 am

Joe W. wrote:Tunaman, those are all swimbaits you just posted. Size shouldn't matter, but I'm willing to bet guys throwing the bigger stuff will stick the bigger fish. So if you want to throw a 3-4" storm bait you're probably putting yourself at a disadvantage anyway.

Actually Joe, the third ones down are Culprit "RipTide Paddle Tail Minnow" and are classified as crappie baits.

So, if I take a Huddleston Shad, or small Basstrix or Storm Wildeye Shad, and hook them on a dropshot rig I'd still be technically fishing a swimbait, right? Unfortunately that's the mentality that the TDs deal with... and is why the criteria needs to be spelled out as clearly and concisely as possible.

Joe W. · Post by **Joe W.** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:43 am

tunaman wrote:
Joe W. wrote:Tunaman, those are all swimbaits you just posted. Size shouldn't matter, but I'm willing to bet guys throwing the bigger stuff will stick the bigger fish. So if you want to throw a 3-4" storm bait you're probably putting yourself at a disadvantage anyway.
Actually Joe, the third ones down are Culprit "RipTide Paddle Tail Minnow" and are classified as crappie baits.

So, if I take a Huddleston Shad, or small Basstrix or Storm Wildeye Shad, and hook them on a dropshot rig I'd still be technically fishing a swimbait, right? Unfortunately that's the mentality that the TDs deal with... and is why the criteria needs to be spelled out as clearly and concisely as possible.

Yeah, it's unfortunate that it needs to be spelled out for people. I'm pretty sure everyone knows what a swimbait is though. How you fish it shouldn't matter though. Drop shot it, dead stick it, it shouldn't matter as long as it's a swimbait. I would consider all paddle tail baits swimbaits as they are meant to swim and resemble a fish. Good luck winning a swimbait tourney with a crappie bait though!

Mike · Post by **Mike** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:49 am

[quote="bassindon69"]

I will be south too.

Don.[/quote]

Good! Give some else a chance!

Joe Bruce · Post by **Joe Bruce** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:57 pm

oh there are others Mike, they just dont post pics all the time.

Mike · Post by **Mike** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:06 pm

Really??

Brian Ruthman · Post by **Brian Ruthman** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:24 pm

MMMMmmmmmmmm Joe like who would catch some big fish and not post the pics ? Would a Banjo minnow be considered a swimbait ?..........LOL !

:

DeltaDan · Post by **DeltaDan** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:33 pm

For the record..... On the Delta -- I would personally consider a Chatterbait with a Basstrix trailer a Swim Bait........

Opps !!

Joe Bruce · Post by **Joe Bruce** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:24 pm

robert m
kyle r
brian c
bub t
matt h
johnny c
alex n
bill a
aaron c
kevin d

to name a few off the top of my head
not locals but but rob and criss took all our money more than once

every now and then I even here a paul p rumer

oakview · Post by **oakview** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:20 pm

As for swimbaits...make it 6" or bigger...no make 71/2" or bigger...

That will slim down the options...

Hopefully the date will change and I can make it up there...

D.

bassindon69 · Post by **bassindon69** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:31 pm

Hey Dave if it turns out you can make it up you have a place to stay here.

Don.

upriverLMB · Post by **upriverLMB** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:58 pm

As for doing it in tournaments Iâ€™ll have to agree with Joeâ€™s list, and for Pedro with Swimbaits only, Robert M as in Marxmiller would be at the top of mine too. Hereâ€™s to a nasty storm and big fish on 1/26/08

oakview · Post by **oakview** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:36 pm

Hey Don

You need someone to net the fish out the back?

D.

bassindon69 · Post by **bassindon69** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:10 pm

LOL!! you think we could drive back here after all that down there and do it? Be a team? Man........................we would be so tired, If we were lucky we would get back by 10 or 11 pm the night before. We would have to sleep in the Van at the lake. LOL!! You would need Sunday to sleep ALL day and then go back south again. LMAO!!!
Why you gota make me think about that now? LOL!!!

Don.

oakview · Post by **oakview** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:24 pm

Yeah our butts would be dragging...I don't know if that would be possible...but if they add a week to the date...then I'm in...weather I'm the net man or flying solo

Can you imagine what we would look like in the morning after fishing all day then the drive

See you when you get down here

D.

Steve · Post by **Steve** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:44 pm

You better think twice about spending the night with Don Juan in his shaggin wagon down by the river

bassindon69 · Post by **bassindon69** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:09 pm

LMAO!!! Thanks Steve

Don.

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