G Loomis GLX MBR844C vs GLX BCR854

Micropterus salmoides · Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:52 am

I'm looking for a new rod for jigging & worming for both casting and pitching. I'm replacing a GLX MBR784C. I tried my GLX MBR843C and it wasn't powerful enough for me, hence my interest in the MBR844C and BCR854. I love the MBR series but wonder if I would get a slight improvement with the BCR854. The rod will be used exclusively for jigs and texas rigs. I'm looking for feedback on the differences between the two rods as well as anglers' experiences with the rods. I also might consider the Dobyns Champion Xtreme 704C. Thanks.

Ringer · Post by **Ringer** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:20 am

I have three of the 844s and that is IMO the finest T-rig rod ever made. I have one GLX and two IMX and would go for the IMX. Great rod for jigs ad t-rigs and plenty of backbone. Good buzzbait rod also.

Jeff C. · Post by **Jeff C.** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:15 pm

Although I haven't tried the BCR854, in my experience the BCR series fishes a little bit stiffer due to the fact that they're rated as "extra fast" instead of just "fast". I'm with you that the Medium heavy MBR843 isn't heavy enough for most jigs, but when I went to the BCR series the medium heavy was fine. Your best bet of course is to try them both out. Any decent tackle shop would let you bring your reel and try them both out in the parking lot.

Also, the BCR series is an inch longer. I'm not sure this is the case in the BCR854 but when comparing the medium heavy MBR to the BCR the handle was shorter for the BCR. This meant that the working distance of the rod itself was actually more than an inch longer. I like that for pitching since I can't get a 7.5 foot rod in my rod holder.

Bill Cook · Post by **Bill Cook** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:34 pm

I have all 3 of the rods in question. If you are fishing lakes, the Dobyns Extreme 704C is awesome for jigs, worms and senkos. If you want to pitch a little and fish jigs in lakes as well, the GLX844 is the ticket. If you want to primarily pitch in heavier structure, the 854 is best. All around rod would probably be the 844.

Can't go wrong with any of them.

Bill

Mark Hiser · Post by **Mark Hiser** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 6:14 pm

Hey Micropterus, ( nice handle) I have owned all the rods you have mentioned. I am now using the DX 704C. It is Extra Fast Action, and has all the backbone you need for jigs and T- rigs, plus you can sling a 1 oz spinnerbait and back it up after a long cast. I think you will find it to be a very comfortable and useful tool if you go that way. If you are in the Redding- Red Bluff area, I would be happy to show you the product.

Mark Hiser

Micropterus salmoides · Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:03 pm

Thanks for the replies everyone. Keep them coming.

Jeff C.,

The BCR854 also has a shorter handle than the MBR844C. G Loomis labels the BCR854 as a Fast action rod not Extra Fast like the BCR803 or BCR853. I don't know if that means the difference in stiffness is not as dramatic as the 803/853 compared to the MBR783/843C.

buddy brown · Post by **buddy brown** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:36 pm

I have a mbr844c in glx. Good jig rod, but better for t-rigs. The 844 in gl3 graphite is a better jig rod, for heavier jigs 1/2oz. and up. If you want a kick@ss jig rod try the mbr785 imx. I also have the BCR 803 my favorite rod right now. Lightweight and the taper has more power than you might think for a Med-hvy. Great for pitchin jigs and worms up close or short casts. I imagine the bcr 854 is a very good jig rod.

BIG DADDY BLUE RANGER · Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:49 pm

you may want to take a look a an MBR864.... it's a great pitchin stick that works well for medium duty worming and jiggin....

Popper · Post by **Popper** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:17 pm

Micro.,

I have all the Gloomis MBR rods in GLX's models, and I agree with your comment regarding MBR843C for certain techniques and locations. The MBR series are excellent rods, and the MBR844C should meet your criteria for power; however, look at Rogue rods as alternative if you are searching for a replacement. These rods are a fraction of the cost with the same sensitivity, power, quality, action, and weight. All of their products are built in the USA (not many companies can make this statement today) and are backed by a lifetime warranty to the original owner. I used Gloomis rods for years until I was introduced to Rogue Rods 2 years ago. Check them out at http:\\www.roguerods.com You'll discover that you'll have the same quality and feeling using those Gloomis at a fraction of the cost. The Rogue Rod equivalent to the MBR 844 C is Rogue Magnum Bass Rod, MB 705C, 1/4-1.0oz, 7'Lg., power=Heavy. (You won't be disappointed) Also note your rod can be ordered with a graphite handle and wrapped with titanium recoil guides for additional cost. You'll noticed a considerable weight reduction and durability without compromising on the power of the rod.
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froteur · Post by **froteur** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:19 pm

BIG DADDY BLUE RANGER wrote:you may want to take a look a an MBR864.... it's a great pitchin stick that works well for medium duty worming and jiggin....

when did they start making an MBR864? thanks.

BIG DADDY BLUE RANGER · Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:19 am

froteur wrote:
BIG DADDY BLUE RANGER wrote:you may want to take a look a an MBR864.... it's a great pitchin stick that works well for medium duty worming and jiggin....
when did they start making an MBR864? thanks.

I don't know for sure,, I have 2 in GL3 (actually MBR864X)that are a few years old now... 7'2" heavy, telescopic with a tip that's just a touch softer than a regular 1 piece MBR... rated 1/4 - 1 oz, 12-20 lb line.

Blue_R70 · Post by **Blue_R70** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:51 am

froteur wrote:when did they start making an MBR864? thanks.

The MBR864X has been around since 1999 or so. It's a nice stick but the telescopic handle and thicker reel seat weigh it down a bit by today's standards. It's only available in GL3.

Tobe · Post by **Tobe** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:26 pm

Micropterus salmoides wrote:I'm looking for a new rod for jigging & worming for both casting and pitching. I'm replacing a GLX MBR784C.I also might consider the Dobyns Champion Xtreme 704C. Thanks.

Opinions from bass fishermen are like Lucky Crafts, everybody has one, including me.

Having owned the MBR844c and the BCR854 I liked the MBR844 for worms and preferred my MBR844 for jigs and heavy plastics however, I could not get comfortable pitching with the 844, It always felt like there was not enough tip for pitching accurately .

I also own a couple of the DX704s and feel this will be a "go to" rod for many anglers, the 704 is one of the most versatile rods I own.

As far as a rod exclusively for jigging and pitching I think the DX705 is the best rod I have ever fished a jig with period. I can't say enough about this rod.

If there is one defining factor that makes a Dobyns rod stand out from all the others, it is balance.

With that said micropterus, if you have a chance to hold a Dobyns rod in your hand I think you will feel what I mean.
I live near Vacaville and would be happy to let you try one.

Mike Tobey

Tobe · Post by **Tobe** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:28 pm

Micropterus salmoides wrote:I'm looking for a new rod for jigging & worming for both casting and pitching. I'm replacing a GLX MBR784C.I also might consider the Dobyns Champion Xtreme 704C. Thanks.

Opinions from bass fishermen are like Lucky Crafts, everybody has one, including me.

Having owned the MBR844c and the BCR854 I liked the MBR844 for worms and preferred my MBR844 for jigs and heavy plastics however, I could not get comfortable pitching with the 844, It always felt like there was not enough tip for pitching accurately .

I also own a couple of the DX704s and feel this will be a "go to" rod for many anglers, the 704 is one of the most versatile rods I own.

As far as a rod exclusively for jigging and pitching I think the DX705 is the best rod I have ever fished a jig with period. I can't say enough about this rod.

If there is one defining factor that makes a Dobyns rod stand out from all the others, it is balance.

With that said micropterus, if you have a chance to hold a Dobyns rod in your hand I think you will feel what I mean.
I live near Vacaville and would be happy to let you try one.

Mike Tobey

froteur · Post by **froteur** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:48 pm

Blue_R70 wrote:
froteur wrote:when did they start making an MBR864? thanks.
The MBR864X has been around since 1999 or so. It's a nice stick but the telescopic handle and thicker reel seat weigh it down a bit by today's standards. It's only available in GL3.

cool. thanks. i'd never heard of it. guess i was looking at the wrong spot on the loomis website.

froteur · Post by **froteur** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:49 pm

BIG DADDY BLUE RANGER wrote:
froteur wrote:
BIG DADDY BLUE RANGER wrote:you may want to take a look a an MBR864.... it's a great pitchin stick that works well for medium duty worming and jiggin....
when did they start making an MBR864? thanks.
I don't know for sure,, I have 2 in GL3 (actually MBR864X)that are a few years old now... 7'2" heavy, telescopic with a tip that's just a touch softer than a regular 1 piece MBR... rated 1/4 - 1 oz, 12-20 lb line.

thanks for the info.