Snag Proof frog design changed?

[Tarpon120]

I've been going through some of my frog reserves lately, so I picked up a few more "Bobby's Perfect" variety. I noticed that the hook exit hole was changed from a slit to a more protected, reinforced type hole. It looks like this is an attempt to beef up the frog and protect the weak spot from tearing. I noticed that the frog tends to take on more water though, and unfortunately, sit lower in the water (even when dry inside). It is subtle, but is not as responsive as the older model and has a different action. Anyone have the same experience? Looks like they are going to get a silicone injection straight out of the box.....

[DeltaDan]

Anyone have the same experience?

A little - But not as much as you are experincing. It will still walk awesome Trimmed and Untrimmed alike out of the box in open water for me.... even water-logged and sub-surface on #50 braid.


The biggest thing I have noticed is that the - Port Hook - ( Left side as in driving a boat ) keeps snagging weeds/matt grass. It is Always on the port hook out of the box - and not the starboard side at all for some odd reason.........

I keep trying to adjust the hook with plyers tighter to the body -- and then the barb sometimes will cut into the frog's body. -- Readjust and add more mend-it to close the hole up .... and two to five adjustments later ~~ it is as it should be out of the box.




Been having alot of success with the Mustard Swamp Donkey Frogs as well.

[rich mendoza]

the problem is the new internal weight. i got this as part of an email on how to fix the sinking problem i had


You can fix them fairly easily by carefully pulling the hook down just enough to get at the nose weight, it’s kinda shaped like a lollypop, clip off the part that would be the “stemâ€

[Tarpon120]

Thanks for the response.

DD, I have noticed the same weed gathering on the left side, strange. I can live with it, might give your fix a try though.

Rich, just what I was looking for. I never noticed the internal weight. It was dark and I didn't feel like fumbling around with a problem. I just trimmed it down and will give it a test here soon. Hopefully this does the trick as SP's are my favorite.....

[Jim Moulton]

You guys are going to really like the new Snag Proof Phat Frog when it comes out.
It does not get any water inside it. Its a little longer and walks reallly well. They hope to have it by the Snag Proof tournament.
DeltaDan Just a thought on your port side hook, How do you store your frog on your rod? Do you always put the port side hook on your reel or hook holder on your rod? I noticed once when I smashed my frog on my reel and left it that way for a few days that it had the same problem your haveing. Maybe not it but just a thought. Jim

[Lugnut]

Hey Jim, When do you think you will have them in stock?

[dtacker]

Rich,
Thank you so much for that tip. I had to re-stock and noticed they sat a little lower now. I clipped the excess weight and noticed it sits the same as the older one now, I greatly appreciate you posting that.
I also have a related question, does anyone have any good recommendations for repairing the tear that happens in the hook's exit hole on the bait? Thank you

[bpm2000]

I've just been sewing them up and super gluing them. They never seem to walk the same anymore and take on water but they hold up and still get blasted.

On the same note, whats up with the fred frog being way thicker than the rest of the bobbys perfect frogs? Ive had 3 now and they are all not nearly as soft.

[R.Cook]

Might wanna try the Mend-It. I would imagine it would work well on the frogs...

[big_limits]

You guys are going to really like the new Snag Proof Phat Frog when it comes out.
It does not get any water inside it. Its a little longer and walks reallly well. They hope to have it by the Snag Proof tournament.
DeltaDan Just a thought on your port side hook, How do you store your frog on your rod? Do you always put the port side hook on your reel or hook holder on your rod? I noticed once when I smashed my frog on my reel and left it that way for a few days that it had the same problem your haveing. Maybe not it but just a thought. Jim

Here is a big question... They are supposed to release the "Phat One" after I-Cast. Not that one frog can make that much difference but, if it isn't redily available to the public before the Snagproof tourney, will those in the "loop" that have access to it be allowed to fish it against others who don't? Wouldn't seem right.

[rich mendoza]

not if you go by the rules from snag proof!! unless they show it as avalible on the web site.

[Jeff Miller]

I too purchased some new SP " bobby's perfect" frogs.....was I suprised when I took them to a small local lake to " tune" them ( a little trim here, a little trim there.....). Much to my suprise two thirds of the things things SINK ! On braid ! WTF !!! What gives ? Been using R2Sea bully wa's with no problems but wanted to give an old standby another shot. Others are having problems judging by this thread.........hope snag proof gets the situation corrected 'cause these things blow !

[rich mendoza]

jeff, contact connie at snag proof she will take care care of your sinking frogs, she exchanged mine.

[Jeff Miller]

Rich, thanks for that info, will be giving them a ring in the morning. I've used their products in the past with much success, not sure what the problem is with these though.

[sean alarid]

Jeff, did you try cutting the weight of the hook? That can be your problem.

[Jeff Miller]

Sean,
I did with one of the "sinkers" and intend to test it tomorrow before I call Snag Proof. I have used these frogs in the past and never had this issue, so I'm not sure why they changed something called "perfect" . Not to sound lazy, I don't mind changing out hardware or hooks, tuning cranks or "tinkering" with a lure to maximize performance. Just seems like thay had a good thing and should have left it alone !

[sean alarid]

I understand what you are saying. If your still having problems give Connie a call and she will take care of you.

[Jeff Miller]

Thank you Sean and Rich ! Your input and help is much appreciated !

[Tarpon120]

Let me second the thanks on your great responses. Hopefully the fix will restore this bait to it's previous state (where it should have been left in my opinion!). I can live with them tearing after some carnage, but not with them falling out before the battle begins.....

[Jeff Miller]

Performed " frogectomy" on the sinking ones ! Took out the nose weight, a dab of mend it, trimmed the legs a tad and that took care of the problems. They now cast farther ( go figure ! ), ride in the correct position while sitting still and walk the way they are intended to.

Talked with the folks at SP, they assured me that it is no problem to exchange any product a customer is unhappy with. Asked about the availability of the Phat Frog........will not be out to the general public until Sept. or Oct.. ( still dialing in prototypes is what I was told ).

Thanks again for the help guys !

[big_limits]

Is there anyone from Snagproof or Snagproof pro staff reading these posts? There has been numerous posts on this very subject. If so what are there thoughts and comments on the matter. Recently I have been buying more tournament frogs and changing the hooks, cutting the thighs, and adding surgical tubing from walmart to end up with a frog more like the old BBP frogs. Anyone from or related to Snagproof willing to comment? Is it just a Western preference? Is the a greater majority that prefers the new,weighted ones?

[bpm2000]

man i hate those tourney frogs - i bought two to mod like you said and the weight just fell out as I was working with them, plus you have to bend those owner hooks up (the ones on mine were so far down they actually stuck into the frog at rest) Ill stick to the bobbys myself.

[bruizer343]

Go Locate the Tommy LeoGrande MOD video.

buy the cheaper tourney frog...

buy GOOD frog hooks
buy Better Rubber...

MonsterFishing.com
I think ?

[big_limits]

U just throw those owner hooks away and put in gammis

[bpm2000]

ya i love the bobbys but they only make the red/black in the tourney frog.

[DeltaDan]

Straight out of the box tonight ~~ and just tied on for tommorow ....


Anyone else notcie the Port hook mis-allinged on this frog ?


This is Number Six for Seven in a row .... right out of the box ...

with The Same Bad hook on the Left side !!

[Tarpon120]

I tested out both Rich's fix (worked great) and the "port side" hook effect this past weekend. I didn't store my tied on frog in the hook keeper on the rod and still gathered weeds on the left side. This confirms that the hook is off a bit right out of the box, as DeltaDan's pic shows. This mainly becomes a p.i.t.a. when throwing on cheese, as the hook will grab some and usually keep the frog landing upside down on the mat until you clean it off.

[jamescaird]

Straight out of the box tonight ~~ and just tied on for tommorow ....


Anyone else notcie the Port hook mis-allinged on this frog ?


This is Number Six for Seven in a row .... right out of the box ...

with The Same Bad hook on the Left side !!

You have the legs around the hook, should be behind the hook (like on the other side).

[TomL]

I too have noticed some changes in the Snagproof frogs - and for me - I hate the changes! The frog was awesome from the day Bobby B first designed it, why the changes? I am not sure - but, I want the old ones back.

In the meantime, in the name of helping out a few fellow anglers and since Bruizer nicely asked me to provide it.. (it may get nuked quite quickly - - - but, I want to help if I can)

You can find the frog videos Volume I and the brand new Volume II by following this link

FROG VIDEOS

[bpm2000]

nice ill be modding my furbit soon - i never use that thing anymore