Size and style hook for 10" Power Worms?
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Size and style hook for 10" Power Worms?
I was thinking a 4/0 Gamakatsu Offset Round Bend. What size and style hook are you using for 10" Power Worms?
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4/0 or 5/0 Gami EWG
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I rock a 7/0 -11/0 owner on 10"+ worms and lizardsMicropterus salmoides wrote:I was thinking a 4/0 Gamakatsu Offset Round Bend. What size and style hook are you using for 10" Power Worms?

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Re: Size and style hook for 10" Power Worms?
5/0 or 6/0 gamikatsu ewg
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A 4/0 Gamakatsu Offset
You answered your own question even.

I personaly prefer and fish with 3/0 on big worms and Senko's even -- unless punching.
You can also buy Gama's in a bulk packs at shops/on-line to help you save some dough instead of just the 5-pack.

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Re: Size and style hook for 10" Power Worms?
I have had good success with the Roundbend offsets 4/0 or 5/0 Gami or Owner.
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Re: Size and style hook for 10" Power Worms?
+1Nor Cal Bassman wrote:I rock a 7/0 -11/0 owner on 10"+ worms and lizardsMicropterus salmoides wrote:I was thinking a 4/0 Gamakatsu Offset Round Bend. What size and style hook are you using for 10" Power Worms?
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T-rigged Berkely Power worms; only fish them at night and use a straight shank style worm hook size 5/0 or 6/0 depending on brand. If you use an off set EWG hook, peg or lock the worm head to the hook eye. The reason to prevent the large diameter worm sliding back into the hook gap and preventing a good hook set.
The straight shank style wide gap premium hook will increase your hook set ratio verses a off set style EWG hook, reason; line pull forces the hook point into the fishes mouth, instead of out the mouth and reduces the problem of the worm filling the hook gap.
Tom
The straight shank style wide gap premium hook will increase your hook set ratio verses a off set style EWG hook, reason; line pull forces the hook point into the fishes mouth, instead of out the mouth and reduces the problem of the worm filling the hook gap.
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Re: Size and style hook for 10" Power Worms?
I usually recommend 5/0 EWG during the day, but at night I only use 4/0 Super Line EWG's. I think the 5/0 super line might be over-kill, a little too much hook. Maybe I feel that way because of the success we've had with the 4/0 at night.
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Tom, I wish you were my next door neighbor.Oldschool wrote:T-rigged Berkely Power worms; only fish them at night and use a straight shank style worm hook size 5/0 or 6/0 depending on brand. If you use an off set EWG hook, peg or lock the worm head to the hook eye. The reason to prevent the large diameter worm sliding back into the hook gap and preventing a good hook set.
The straight shank style wide gap premium hook will increase your hook set ratio verses a off set style EWG hook, reason; line pull forces the hook point into the fishes mouth, instead of out the mouth and reduces the problem of the worm filling the hook gap.
Tom
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Re: Size and style hook for 10" Power Worms?
I can't speak for the Berkley Power Worms, but I can speak for the R.I. Big Units.
4/0 or 5/0 Gamakatsu Offset Round Bend worm hook with a Medium sized Parasite clip. Worm won't slide down and bunch up on the hook and you get a little more noise with the weight clicking on the clip.
Nuff said!
4/0 or 5/0 Gamakatsu Offset Round Bend worm hook with a Medium sized Parasite clip. Worm won't slide down and bunch up on the hook and you get a little more noise with the weight clicking on the clip.
Nuff said!
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Re: Size and style hook for 10" Power Worms?
A must read for any bass fishermen interested in big plastic worms is the late Bill Murphy's book "In Pursuit of Gaint Bass" and read the sticthing presentation. Bill used Eagle Claw 181 baitholder with the barbs flattened, size 1 to 3/0 depending on the worm size; 9" to 16" with a split shot placed 8" above the hook.
Murphy's logic; bass see big hooks and line. By using a split shot the line is hidden by the bottom better. Big hooks, "would love to be able to fish where big bass would bite 20# line and big hooks".
At night you can get away with heavy line and big hooks, during the day time it's better to scale down the hook, line and weight size.
Bubba size hooks that can easily handle 200 lb tuna are over kill for largemouth bass. You say you can't handle big bass in heavy cover without Bubba stuff; learn to control the bass and give then a avenue to swim themselves out of the cover.
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Murphy's logic; bass see big hooks and line. By using a split shot the line is hidden by the bottom better. Big hooks, "would love to be able to fish where big bass would bite 20# line and big hooks".
At night you can get away with heavy line and big hooks, during the day time it's better to scale down the hook, line and weight size.
Bubba size hooks that can easily handle 200 lb tuna are over kill for largemouth bass. You say you can't handle big bass in heavy cover without Bubba stuff; learn to control the bass and give then a avenue to swim themselves out of the cover.
Tom
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C'mon oldschool,
It's not that we "need" the bubba gear, but I sure makes you feel like the most advance lifeform on the planet when you can manhandle a fearsome 2 lb fish
In reality though, the quicker you get the fish to the boat, the less time it has to get off the hook! now that's not to say I don't enjoy fighting a good fish, but I need to feel like I'm 100% in control of said fish when were battling, I sure ain't gonna get out the dropshot rod when I'm tossing beavers into tules and lilly pads!
It's not that we "need" the bubba gear, but I sure makes you feel like the most advance lifeform on the planet when you can manhandle a fearsome 2 lb fish


In reality though, the quicker you get the fish to the boat, the less time it has to get off the hook! now that's not to say I don't enjoy fighting a good fish, but I need to feel like I'm 100% in control of said fish when were battling, I sure ain't gonna get out the dropshot rod when I'm tossing beavers into tules and lilly pads!
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Re: Size and style hook for 10" Power Worms?
Gamakatsu #484 or Owner #5103 are forged .046D wire strong hooks, ideally suited for large plastic worms. Gamakatsu #584 EWG off set hooks is better for thick bodied creatures. All can handle world record class bass in any cover condition, if you know how to control bass properly.
Looking at some of the hooks used, including the 11/0 Owner for thick bodied plastic "water dog" type creatures, you got wonder why? The Reaction Innovation water dog uses a hook that is .094D forged 11/0 suitable grander marlin or blurfin tuna.
No bass can break 25# mono on it's own, the fishermen breaks it via poor knots or trying to lift the bass through heavy cover. Using 80 lb superbraid and hooks with wire diameter exceeding .062 is over kill IMO. Flipping 10+' worms onto heavy cover isn't a good presentation.
Looking at some of the hooks used, including the 11/0 Owner for thick bodied plastic "water dog" type creatures, you got wonder why? The Reaction Innovation water dog uses a hook that is .094D forged 11/0 suitable grander marlin or blurfin tuna.
No bass can break 25# mono on it's own, the fishermen breaks it via poor knots or trying to lift the bass through heavy cover. Using 80 lb superbraid and hooks with wire diameter exceeding .062 is over kill IMO. Flipping 10+' worms onto heavy cover isn't a good presentation.
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Old School,
I match my hook gauge and size to my line size. I use a #1 or #2 worm hooks in 7" worms, because I'm using 8lb flouro, and a med. rod to throw it. I can't bury a big hook with that light setup, but I get way more bites with the lighter line.
I make sure I have the thickness of the plastic clear in the bend of the hook, so I can get a good hookset. For me, Mustad Ultrapoint wide gap hooks work really well on light line, since they have a deep bite, a light gauge wire, and are very strong and sharp.
I match my hook gauge and size to my line size. I use a #1 or #2 worm hooks in 7" worms, because I'm using 8lb flouro, and a med. rod to throw it. I can't bury a big hook with that light setup, but I get way more bites with the lighter line.
I make sure I have the thickness of the plastic clear in the bend of the hook, so I can get a good hookset. For me, Mustad Ultrapoint wide gap hooks work really well on light line, since they have a deep bite, a light gauge wire, and are very strong and sharp.
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That is the correct method; line size to hook size.
The misconception is appling superbraids to hook size. The braids are smaller diameter, ie; 80 braid is about 15 lb mono diameter.
A heavy action bass rod, even a flipping rod can only handle about 8 lbs of dead weight or drag tension. Try lifting a gallon jug of water for example. A 6/0 hook made from .062 D wire and forged can easily handle 30 lbs of drag tension that would explode the rod long before the hook would deform. The extreme is superbraid hooks made from .094 or larger wire that can easily handle 130 lb mono being used in some bass fishing applications...Bubba tackle to the extreme, with rods that can handle about 8 lbs of tension.
We are way off topic.
Tom
The misconception is appling superbraids to hook size. The braids are smaller diameter, ie; 80 braid is about 15 lb mono diameter.
A heavy action bass rod, even a flipping rod can only handle about 8 lbs of dead weight or drag tension. Try lifting a gallon jug of water for example. A 6/0 hook made from .062 D wire and forged can easily handle 30 lbs of drag tension that would explode the rod long before the hook would deform. The extreme is superbraid hooks made from .094 or larger wire that can easily handle 130 lb mono being used in some bass fishing applications...Bubba tackle to the extreme, with rods that can handle about 8 lbs of tension.
We are way off topic.
Tom
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Actually, I'm just happy if I still remember what the original topic was, without having to look up at the subject line.



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