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Jay Rowan

Dan Stahlman wrote:I asked them why didn't they come down in the morning when guys were going out and show them the difference instead of waiting for them to come in.

That or the anglers could have looked at the full color pictures on the second page of the Reg. booklet before they went out.

Jay Rowan

Electrofished yesterday launching out of Red Bud and hitting up several spots around Konocti and Jago bays. Algae was thick near shore in all areas unless it was a wind blown point, and it was a little stinky near Red Bud. Small fish have moved up and the larger 2+lbs fish have moved out deeper. The...

Jay Rowan

Great fish Mark. You got me beat and I've got the Power Bait!

Couldn't think of a better guy to get a fish like that. Congrats.

Jay Rowan

You don't have to fish for 6 hours. You have to weigh your fish with-in 6 hours. Night tournaments worse for the DO in water. DO is normally highest in the late afternoon as the plants and algae do their thing then starts to crash after the sun goes down and is lowest first thing in the am before th...

Jay Rowan

It depends on where exactly your pond is located. See the link below under "Private stocking" http://www.dfg.ca.gov/fish/Administration/Permits/ You said that your near Cammanche, so if your in Amador or Calaveras County and are west of Hwy 49 you don't need a private stocking permit at th...

Jay Rowan

Those are the old #'s. The "inspection" fees were reduced and it's now supposed to be anything under 23 ft. is $20 or $25. Can't remember which off hand. This was done specifically to get bass boats into the lower range. I think there is still an extra $$ for ballasts. "You haven't be...

Jay Rowan

See info. in the link below. http://www.co.lake.ca.us/Government/Directory/Water_Resources/Mussel_Prevention.htm The short of it is that if your coming from an infected state, infected county with-in CA, or infected waterbody in last 30 days you will have to go through an "inspection" by a...

Jay Rowan

Kok's, Chinook and Trout are all probably running right around that depth right now. On Folsom people have been getting Chinook and Rainbows at about 20 feet the last couple weeks.

Jay Rowan

I heard those fish were from Stockton area. That 13+ would be great on any day !! Just north of Stockton. About a 5 min run at 30 MPH from Paradise Pt. The two big girls went 11-9 and 12 even. That 12 looks bigger. They were with-in 50-75 feet of each other in nice big pockets in the weeds, 3-4 fee...

Jay Rowan

Not necessarily too early. We got some fish for the San Mateo show on Wed. with the electrofishing boat and several fish were already paired up in a shallow flat I typically find beds later in the season. Couldn't see any beds, but they sure did appear to be doing their thing or getting ready to. Th...

Jay Rowan

Rich, I can't answer your specific question about the weed spraying done by Boating and Waterways in the Delta as I'm not too familiar with it. They do use similar products in Clear Lake at a much smaller scale and there hasn't been much in the way of adverse reaction by the fish population as a who...

Jay Rowan

the cost for a full inspection for "high risk boats" was reduced to $20.00 for a boat 22ft and under (includes band if you pass). This was done specifically to include bass boats in the lower cost inspection catigory. 20 dollars because you live in the wrong zip code? I smell lawsuit. Doe...

Jay Rowan

This is exactly why the ordinance is not working as designed. Any ordinance is only as effective as it is enforced. This new protocol doesn't address enforcement issues at all. And now projected for 2010: 8,000 boats x 12 screenings = $960,000.00, of which $672,000.00 goes to the county. I would as...

Jay Rowan

They are making changes to try and make the program better. That's what this is all about. They recognized there were problems so they picked a university extension biologist to chair a group of stakeholders and tasked them with fixing some of the problems. One of the big ones was lack of reinspecti...

Jay Rowan

Not personal at all Dan. However being involved with the program from the start as the DFG reservoir biologist, I know for a fact that the intentions of the county are not money collection, they are to protect the lake. The execution may have it's flaws, but that's what happens when things like this...

Jay Rowan

Jay, Their has been already a half dozen boats here on the Delta that are BASS Elite fisherman. Those inspections will only be for the prefish time prior to the event in March. I'm not working on this one so I don't know all the details, except that there will be inspections before the prefish and ...

Jay Rowan

"Very unfortunate. My summer vacation just switched venues." If your coming for days or a week or something it's really not that big a deal as long as your boat is prepped. It's no different than what the boaters already go through at most of the lakes in So Cal, and nothing compared to wh...

Jay Rowan

"Very unfortunate. My summer vacation just switched venues." If your coming for days or a week or something it's really not that big a deal as long as your boat is prepped. It's no different than what the boaters already go through at most of the lakes in So Cal, and nothing compared to wh...

Jay Rowan

"So what if you go up to fish a tourney and you come from Arizona or Southern California where there are mussels? Are you banned from going on the lake if you come from a county which has the mussels? As of the last meeting, from what I understand those boats would be subject to an "inspec...

Jay Rowan

Questions about points made above. If a bird is unable to transport the veliger how is the outside hull of a day use boat supposed to do the same? Ag inspection rubs their hand down the side of the boat. Why? Aren't they dead if they are dry per the bird theory? or is the bird theory dead because t...

Jay Rowan

"This is the most ridiculous claim I've heard in the last 24 hrs from our Fish and Game Dept. What you made 12 times better is the income into the pockets of Lake County, PERIOD! Wait till the lil suckers get into the lake! Who do you think will pay for that? IN SPADES!" Seriously? $10.00 ...

Jay Rowan

The water chemistry studies have been done, CL along with most of our lakes in CA have plenty of Calcium and other salts necessary to support the mussels. I believe that CL was put into one of the high risk categories because of it's calcium levels. Lots of relatively young marine sediments in the m...

Jay Rowan

I sat in on the last meeting where all this was discussed and with the adjustments talked about above the County is attempting to fix some of the deficiencies in the program, while making it reasonable for boaters. Not an easy thing to do. As far as I could tell from the last meeting it was a fairly...

Jay Rowan

The plants at Folsom will most likely start this month and continue throughout the winter. Lower elevation waterbodies get planted fall through spring when the water temps are cooler. Fish get allotted for Folsom in both flush and lean times, it's just a matter of how many. The recent budget trouble...

Jay Rowan

3 min rule has been in effect since at least March of 97 which is when the last set of special conditions for bass tournaments was put out. 3 min from the time the fish is first put in the bag to the time it goes into the release boat or back in the water. BASS did a study in the 80's or early 90's ...

Jay Rowan

Johnathan, I think that was a big gold fish you spooned up at Camanche... Pike minnow are a native species in the Sac. drainage and evolved with the salmon and steelhead in this drainage. Besides being wanton waste there's no reason to bank or kill them in the Sac/SJR drainage. As was mentioned earl...

Jay Rowan

Results are in from Pathology. It was Koi HerpesVirus that was killing the carp in CL. See link below if you want to read up. http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/whatsnew/article2.cfm?id=1378 It appears to have run it's course although typically the die off's tend to occure in a bell shaped curve with a l...

Jay Rowan

Nothing yet. I talked with one of the pathologists today. He called the lab at UCD yesterday and they didn't have a hit on anything yet. He said all the fish we got for them were in pretty bad shape inside and out so we should see something soon. It normally takes 7-14 days for anything to show up, ...

Jay Rowan

Took some carp samples last Wed. They are with the pathologist. His last e-mail said: "The virology results will take 7-14 days, if positive. We can't declare them negative for 28 days." I was up this weekend and it looks like whatever it is has run it's course. I didn't see anymore carp d...

Jay Rowan

I'll be collecting some fish tomorrow for our pathologists to take a look at and I'll take some basic water quality measurements as well. This does happen to some extent most every year, but according to the people I've talked with up there this is the worst since the late 80's. My hunch is it's mos...

Jay Rowan

Try cinannamondi (sp?). right by the dam off Shasta dam blvd. Dirt lot and no dock, but there is a paved ramp for a while anyways. We launched there last week and it wasn't too bad. The trout bite was wide open. We saw fish all over the surface, so thinking they were spots at first I broke out the t...

Jay Rowan

We did some electrofishing around Redbud, Anderson and Rattlesnake first week of July and every spot we hit was loaded with bass fry from several days to a couple weeks old. Did our main "spring" e-fish in mid June and pretty much only got males up protecting beds with just a few clouds of...

Jay Rowan

We had good luck on frogs and horny toads in Lake Port in every cove, between docks etc. about 2 weeks ago from about 10:00am on. Followed up the misses with Senkos and got pretty much everyone of them. Mostly post spawn males 2.5-3lbs. Didn't find the bigger fish though.

Jay Rowan

I gotta say, dealing with Kyle, Jay, Terry Foreman, Mike Guisti and so on... that part of DFG has always been easy and a pleasure. Something I actually look forward to doing. Now the enforcement wing of DFG I ain't gonna say nothing about. Momma taught me that long ago. sTony Thanks for the kind wo...

Jay Rowan

It was open and staffed last week.

Jay Rowan

Just started thinking about how nice it would be to have Florida strain in Oroville. What does it take to get them planted? Is there anything we can do as fishermen? Chico Bass and concervation club had been planting them for years but something happened with their supplier. They are trying to get ...

Jay Rowan

Jay, I understand your reasoning, but my gripe is not WHAT happened but HOW it all went down. Someone saw a post on the INTERNET and contacted Fish and Game...so that they can collect their 50 bucks. Thats almost like a city cop watching the news on TV, seeing someone speed at 75mph on I80...and th...

Jay Rowan

"1.63. Movement of Live Fish. Except as provided in sections 4.00 through 4.30 and 230, live fin fish may not be transported alive from the water where taken." I cannot find a definition of "transporting" in the regulations so I guess it is up to the game wardens individual inte...

Jay Rowan

For future reference, would Bragging Rights To Be Held In Perpetuity be considered an inducement under DFG permit requirements? Not under my interpretation, but there is still the issue of culling fish. (which is how this whole deal came up) The only exception that allows the culling of fish is for...

Jay Rowan

That is a great post by and everything he said applies not just to So. Cal and Diamond valley. We all see the same things happen up here too. One thing to remember about the drive up weigh-in that I see all the time. Having your fish in the bag, then floating it in the live well. I see it at every e...

Jay Rowan

The southern CA lakes were infested through water transport from the Colorado River. As far as I've heard San Justo is still a bit of a mystery, but I'd put my money on live bait. The reason that birds are not a likely vector (not impossible, but unlikley) is that their feathers are hydrophobic, the...

Jay Rowan

some links to damage estimates... http://seagrant.gso.uri.edu/factsheets/zebra_mussel.html http://www.dgif.state.va.us/wildlife/zebramussels.asp http://nationalatlas.gov/articles/biology/a_zm.html Sift through for the estimate numbers and great pictures. Just Google zebra or Quagga and damage and yo...

Jay Rowan

I think Troy is at ClearLake bait and Tackle not Lakeshore bait and Tackle, they are right down the street from each other, Troy is at the shop at Red Bud. Correct me if I am wrong but just trying to help out. Thanks David, You are correct. Pam said that Troy Bellah ( I even spelled his name wrong,...

Jay Rowan

I just got off the phone with Pamela Francis Deputy Director Public Works for Lake Co. and she gave me the latest info. on the Lake County inspection/sticker program that starts on the 8th. By 5:00 pm today the web site www.co.lake.ca.us/mussels and phone number (707) 263-2556 will be updated to inc...

Jay Rowan

I just got off the phone with Pamela Francis Deputy Director Public Works for Lake Co. and she gave me the latest info. on the Lake County inspection/sticker program that starts on the 8th. By 5:00 pm today the web site www.co.lake.ca.us/mussels and phone number (707) 263-2556 will be updated to inc...

Jay Rowan

You could use bleach, 5%, but obviously have to be careful as it's corrosive. I've talked with a few people that put it in a spray bottle and do a quick spray of their live wells just to keep the stink out but that will kill any veliger hanging out in there as well. Arizona recommends pure vinegar m...

Jay Rowan

That is probably it. I think it will be at least a month before they can get anything off the ground. You'll know when the sticker program is implemented. In the mean time, there might be some random ramp or highway "choke point" based inspections depending on what they can get together. T...

Jay Rowan

Thanks for the good words. I'm starting to feel like a quagga guy instead of a fisheries biologist. The folks in Clear Lake should really be commended, epically the public works dept. as they are the only ones that I know of at the county level doing anything significant. The implementation of this ...

Jay Rowan

I was at 3 of the last 4 meetings in the county. Chasing off Bass tournaments and closing the lake to them is not the intention of this. They just want to protect the lake. There are defiantly a lot of questions on how this whole sticker and decontamination thing is going to work that have not been ...

Jay Rowan

Greg, These cost (maintenance) aren't typically covered by the state. They are usually paid for by counties, cities and water districts so they wouldn't show up in the St. budget. I got that number from our invasive species coordinator. If you want to know more about a real world example and what it...

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