“KAMALLA ……URRRRR FIRED!!!!

[JVGondal]

Monte300 is trolling us
Nothing else makes sense. He can’t be real

[monte300]

No free programs for me retired on a pension I earned and would like to hold onto it and fish every chance I get. A billionaire like Trump could give a rats butt about me or anyone else that’s not wealthy

[jiggin4bass]

Monty300 Trump is very powerful make no mistake and yes heads are going roll the within the Democratic party and they will be powerless again't him. I cant wait to see the carnage on the dems side.

[monte300]

I’m fine with heads rolling in the Democratic Party and I won’t lose a minute of sleep over that. It’s the constitution and democracy of this great country I’m worried about. Unlike you and Trump I’m not worried about his revenge within the Democratic Party, I’m worried about him and Project 2025 taking a dump on the 250 year old democracy our founding fathers created and that I hold dear. Don’t mistaken me for a liberal because I voted for her, I was voting AGAINST him

[monte300]

Monty300 Trump is very powerful make no mistake and yes heads are going roll the within the Democratic party and they will be powerless again't him. I cant wait to see the carnage on the dems side.

That’s true the chairman is powerful like most billionaires are. The only heads that will roll are the ones that he can fire and he was gonna replace those people with like thinkers anyway. If it goes further than that then my prediction of him being a dictator will be confirmed.

[monte300]

You aren’t confusing democracy and the Democratic Party are you? They are certainly NOT one in the same

[jiggin4bass]

A trump democracy sure why not it sounds good. Your living under a
detector here in Ca. So what be the difference . Tramp just going to do it better every blue state is going to suffer under Trump rule. He has the feds on his side and I like that idea show them no mercy what so ever. That's how being a detector works.

[monte300]

There lies the difference between you and I. You welcome a Trump dictatorship, I fear it. What I think reality is you want him to get revenge on democrats while I worry about all of us losing constitutional rights. Very different scenarios for sure.

[Kennortonjr]

Oh man that 1st page in particular is a doozy! Median IQ: 75??? Yikes! Especially sad given the state of this forum, that posts like this would be the hottest thread in far too long. Sadly these people, brainwashed by Facebook, see posts like this as “normal” for a fishing forum. Go back fifteen years and your posts would seem insane. Sadly your ilk have been brainwashed as pawns by Silicon Valley elites (and they have used you, distracted you, and had you serve your purpose). Most regrettably you’ll never recognize the error in your ways (likely incapable of profound thought). Enjoy your win though! The bosses spoiled son won again and he this time he’s bringing big-tech elites! Working men like myself are left at the bottom while the ultra-rich (nobody posting here) continue to get richer.

Elections since 1996: eight. Democrat wins: 4, Republican wins: 4. Why don’t you guys (so eager to serve the elites) relax a little. This isn’t the end of history.

And while you are clearly incapable of any level of self-reflection or self-criticism, my only advice would be to spend a little bit less time in your conservative echo chambers. This thread (on a fishing forum) is an embarrassment. Touch grass!

[jiggin4bass]

You live in fear I don't that's what makes us different. He will make this country great again one state at a time.

[jiggin4bass]

Nobody ever want to talk about fishing
unless the western bass editor post it. And you read it with nobody responding.

[monte300]

You live in fear I don't that's what makes us different. He will make this country great again one state at a time.

Stick to making jigs I refuse to continue trading wits with an unarmed man

[jiggin4bass]

Its what I do best and that's a fact.

[Whoopbass]

I’m fine with heads rolling in the Democratic Party and I won’t lose a minute of sleep over that. It’s the constitution and democracy of this great country I’m worried about. Unlike you and Trump I’m not worried about his revenge within the Democratic Party, I’m worried about him and Project 2025 taking a dump on the 250 year old democracy our founding fathers created and that I hold dear. Don’t mistaken me for a liberal because I voted for her, I was voting AGAINST him

You're not a liberal you're a far left wing nut job.
You're worried about the Democracy and Constitution of this nation. Were you worried about it in 2020 with the obvious steal of the election? It was mathematically impossible for Biden to win. Where are the extra 10 million "voters" that Biden got that Kamala didn't? It was fraud and you chose to ignore it because they installed anybody but Trump.
What about the witch hunt for anyone conservative that they jailed or financially ruined? Not a problem there because it was conservatives. You're party is nothing but trash.

[jiggin4bass]

Anybody involved in the jan 6th riot well be pardon by Trump and prosecutions going forward from jan 6th will be stop. Including whats happen to Trump now. Its all going to go away. And democrats are going to suffer for the lawless they created. Its not
revenge Trumps after its a wrecking make no mistake about that. If I was a governor of a blue state I would be very worried.

[JVGondal]

This is about saving the county not voting for a person

Jan 6th was minor not todays 911 as the claim

It’s not America when one side is prosecuting their
Political opponents like the democrats are doing
The media lies so much they have people believing Trump is A Hitler. Nothing can be farther from the truth
A wise man said liberalism is a mental disorder
There is no other explanation

[monte300]

Yeeehh January 6 was minor people died that day. What drug are you on? One of the darkest days in the history of the nation

[El Jefe]

You aren’t confusing democracy and the Democratic Party are you? They are certainly NOT one in the same

And you are confusing “democracy” with a Republic…..its a common misconception by liberals….it’s the ONLY reason voters like you have not completely destroyed our great country .

[monte300]

You aren’t confusing democracy and the Democratic Party are you? They are certainly NOT one in the same

And you are confusing “democracy” with a Republic…..its a common misconception by liberals….it’s the ONLY reason voters like you have not completely destroyed our great country .

I’m not a liberal I’m a moderate I hate Chairman Trump and everything he stands for. President douche bag soon to be Chairman Trump once he gets unchecked power. He’s totally changed the GOP and not in a good way. I’ve been looking for a good republican to vote for and it ain’t him OR Vance. Trump is a wannabe dictator how can you not see that? Have you even glanced at the content of Project 2025? Women, people of color and/or non wealthy have no business voting for that *** clown he’s a racist with no respect for women.

[monte300]

Anybody involved in the jan 6th riot well be pardon by Trump and prosecutions going forward from jan 6th will be stop. Including whats happen to Trump now. Its all going to go away. And democrats are going to suffer for the lawless they created. Its not
revenge Trumps after its a wrecking make no mistake about that. If I was a governor of a blue state I would be very worried.

Right when he should be focused on MAMA making America mediocre again he’s focused on revenge and/or reckoning. That’s the turd we elected but hey, he does have the Supreme Court in his back pocket

[jiggin4bass]

Trump has been president elect for 3 day now stock market is up.
Foreign countries already want to buy fossil fuels from the U.S. instead of Russia
Toyota said there going to start production more gas powered cars.
Soros DA's and judges are starting to pack there bags.
Caravans are breaking up at the borders or not coming to cross.

[JVGondal]

Yeeehh January 6 was minor people died that day. What drug are you on? One of the darkest days in the history of the nation

No drugs. I’m comparing 911 and Pearl Harbor to Jan 6th because MSNBC said Jan 6 was just as bad

4 people died on Jan 6.
3 were of natural causes heart attacks possibly from stress. One was shot by police
One was an overdose

How many died on 911?
What happen in Pearl Harbor?
You my friend believe their bull and this is why the country is in such a mess



10 counties in Ca flipped red durning this election
Trump has 40% of Ca.
Liberalism is a mental disorder

[jiggin4bass]

Harris burns 1 billion war chest and is begging for more. You lost why do you need more money. Can you imagine what she would have done with taxes if she had won.

[JVGondal]

Feed the war machine in the Ukraine
Harris Biden
War mongers

How do we forget the Covid bologna?
Stay home. Wear a mask. Don’t visit grandma in the nursing home
Get the shot and you can’t catch COVID
6 feet. Blah blah
Everyone had to stay home from work
Ok go back to work now. Biden says look at all the jobs I created.
Give me a break. After that dictatorship the democrats will never be trusted
Yet so many fools buy into their manure
Once Gavin and gang closed the outdoors
Parks. Playgrounds the boat Ramps
The food service industry. Are you fn kidding me
Trump is a dictator? LMFAO
Democrats are the enemy of America and all she stands for
Freedom
And don’t tell me how many children and healthy people died. The vast majority who died from Covid had more than one other disease
Your going to tell me a million people died yet you can’t name 3 people in the media in Hollywood or politics

[jiggin4bass]

I wonder when the green kool aide stands are going to start popping up.

[jiggin4bass]

Ivy league students were offered milk cookies crayons and lego blocks to cope with the crushing defeat on Tuesday.

[Kennortonjr]

Reading some of these replies it is clear that many of you are too far gone. Thirty years of propaganda (no doubt starting with AM radio in the 90s, ramping up with Fox News as dinner-side entertainment in the 00s, and climaxing with Facebook/social media the last decade). Sound familiar? You are the sad product of a system that has brainwashed you (to vote against your own economic interests) for over three decades. Conservatives recently have referenced “taking the red pill”; the true irony is, taken literally, that would imply realizing that you have been the “sheep” all along, used to further the agenda of global elites like Peter Thiel and Elon Musk. Will you consider this for more than a second? I’m sure you won’t!

At the end of the day, what disturbs many of us, is the blind zealot-like devotion to one man. Stripped down to its essence this is an un-American movement. Our nations founding fathers would be revolted. I could never imagine putting another man’s last name on my truck, a huge flag (often positioned higher than the American flag) in my front yard, wearing his face on a t-shirt. As a man I worship nobody like that. It’s disturbing to see fellow Americans (good and well meaning people, I know) stooping to this level out of simple ignorance. Even more disturbing, considering Trump is just another global elite out to serve his own kind. Can you picture him shoveling graveling? Clearing brush? Backing up a bass boat down one of our steep canyon reservoir launch ramps? And yet blue-collar men support him. Why? He’s not like us.

I agree that big-city liberal elites are annoying. But, before he decided to con the rubes, Trump was a New York, Clinton-supporting elite. You really think that changed in his 60s? I genuinely pity you if you can’t see the con here. What do you think Elon Musk knows he will get from Trump? Why did Jeff Bezos cancel the Washington Post endorsement at the last minute? Would you like to see Eastern-European style corruption in our country?

The world is complex and it’s clear many of you don’t understand it. Reading has fallen off the last 20 years and, I would argue, this thread (as well the ascendency of Trump himself) is exhibit #A. Nuance is lost and propaganda reigns. Imagine for a second that half the odd-behaviors he displays were conducted by Harris or Obama. How would Fox News have reacted? I would encourage all of you to keep this level of cynicism and criticism with regard to Trump’s second term.

[Whoopbass]

I ain't reading all that shi!.
Too far gone????? You can't even define what a woman is.

BTW, what happened to Mark Poulson? He is getting too old for this crap?

[Whoopbass]

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[Kennortonjr]

I ain't reading all that shi!.
Too far gone????? You can't even define what a woman is.

BTW, what happened to Mark Poulson? He is getting too old for this crap?

At the end of the day, I prefer to focus on issues that actually affect my life. I think trans are significantly less than 1% of the population. Not really interested in spending a ton of time debating “trans stuff”. You do you though!

[JVGondal]

It is clear. . That’s says it all
Whatever msnbc and the other democrat bought channels tell you
Shepeople

[Kennortonjr]

It is clear. . That’s says it all
Whatever msnbc and the other democrat bought channels tell you
Shepeople

Hard to argue with that! Great points!

[JVGondal]

Speaking of being familiar

Tulsi Gabbard
Elon Musk
RFK Jr
Joe Rogan

Enough said

[Kennortonjr]

Speaking of being familiar

Tulsi Gabbard
Elon Musk
RFK Jr
Joe Rogan

Enough said

What?

[JVGondal]

All left the demoRatts and endorsed Trump as if you don’t know

[Kennortonjr]

All left the demoRatts and endorsed Trump as if you don’t know

You listed four names who “switched parties” as proof of what exactly? What do I care about those four? Do you care about Dick and Liz Cheney voting for Kamala? Of course you don’t!

I highly doubt Elon was ever a Democrat, he wanted subsidies for electric cars and is now just open about who he is (a globalist elite with suspicious ties to Ghislaine Maxwell who also wants to turn our country into an Oligarchy).

I used to listen to Joe Rogan when his podcast had like 300 views on the live stream (over 15 years ago). He has never been a Democrat. He endorsed Ron Paul in 2012 and, if I’m not mistaken, Gary Johnson in 2016.

So you listed two nutcases who actually did switch from D to R. I’m a grown man who thinks for himself, what do I care about that.

All I ask is that you keep your cynicism when Trump is in office because I know for a fact he will only be looking out for his own and that ain’t us.

[JVGondal]

Ok. We agree to disagree
The nutcases cackle and wear blue
Have a great day fishing and catch a big one

[Kennortonjr]

Ok. We agree to disagree
The nutcases cackle and wear blue
Have a great day fishing and catch a big one

Ditto! (Except for that second point.)

[JVGondal]

Now let’s rip some lips

[Whoopbass]

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[Whoopbass]

Are we good now?

[Kennortonjr]

Are we good now?

Mostly….just to clarify you guys are agreeing to vote straight D during the mid-terms right?

[Whoopbass]

I can do that as long as you can vote NO on all the propositions. They have enough of our money and more is not going to help.

[Kennortonjr]

I can do that as long as you can vote NO on all the propositions. They have enough of our money and more is not going to help.

I will admit the older I get the more I vote “no” on them. Good compromise!

[drew]

I would like to know why someone would think Trump is going to be a dictator?

Also why someone would think that the democrats are constitutionalist’s.

What is the origin of these thoughts/logic? Are they opinions? Are they based on information that has been provided? If so how accurate are the sources?

[JVGondal]

They think he will be a dictator because the news twisted Trumps words
Trump was asked if would be a dictator and he said “yes! But Only on the first day”.
He will said he will use executive power to reverse many things Biden did immediately just as Biden had done.
He was calling Biden a dictator for what he did soon as he took office
The media made a big deal about it and the people ran with it

I don’t think the democrats think they are constitutionalist themselves
They want to change it in order to retain power indefinitely
Obama himself wants no term limits

[jiggin4bass]

Trump first order of business when he take office is sign and executive order placing green kool aide trucks in very democratic state to help to relieve the pain of the red wave.

[Kennortonjr]

I would like to know why someone would think Trump is going to be a dictator?

Also why someone would think that the democrats are constitutionalist’s.

What is the origin of these thoughts/logic? Are they opinions? Are they based on information that has been provided? If so how accurate are the sources?

I don’t personally believe he will be a dictator. I think he’s too old. However the way he ended his last term was definitely unsettling (Mike Pence in particular). But the main reason people might think that is comments like this:

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way ... any-voters

I study history a lot. That’s just not how American Presidents talk. Personally I wouldn’t support anybody who made statements like that (no matter how much I agreed with them). Maybe Nixon would talk like that behind closed doors, but in public? No way. Imagine what you might think if Obama had said that at his peak? Disturbed?

As for your latter question, it would depend on what you mean by a constitutionalist. There are originalists (the Federalist society Republicans) and “living constitutionalists” (who believe in a somewhat looser reading of the document). This can be interpreted as directly written powers vs. implied powers. Thomas Jefferson had a great quote about the earth belonging to the “living generation” and the absurdity of allowing the dead to “bind the living.” I think that applies to the originalists of today. As President Thomas Jefferson tried to limit his powers to those “directly written in the constitution” (after all his generation was still alive and this is how he interpreted the document). However, when presented with the opportunity to secure the Louisiana Purchase he went through with this (even though there was nothing in the Constitution that allowed him to purchase this land). Although it troubled him, he used the “implied powers” when it suited him. Was he wrong to do this? I don’t think so.

[monte300]

I would like to know why someone would think Trump is going to be a dictator?

Also why someone would think that the democrats are constitutionalist’s.

What is the origin of these thoughts/logic? Are they opinions? Are they based on information that has been provided? If so how accurate are the sources?

Check out Project 2025 and don’t believe the malarkey that Trump isn’t familiar with it

[Kennortonjr]

What are Trump’s proposed tariffs going to do to the price of fishing lures and gear? Unquestionably it will get more expensive. Trump said William McKinley and his tariffs are his inspiration, but by the time McKinley became President he mellowed out on tarrifs big time. They were not popular. They will not be popular next year.