The Obama Show

Rod Martin · Post by **Rod Martin** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:30 am

Looking forward to the Obama show.
He has done a very good job of getting the small donors to pony up.
Thats a lot of people.

hrvestuff · Post by **hrvestuff** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:25 am

yeah..,.and some of them even speak English..........................

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:37 am

I figure he'll need a 10 to 12% lead in the polls to win. I believe there's enough hidden racism out there that will show its face in the voting booth. People who say they will vote democratic as they always have in the past but when the get in the voting booth with think, "I aint votin' for no...." I know lots of these types of people in the midwest.

Dan McKenzie · Post by **Dan McKenzie** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:44 am

yes plenty of hidden, some right out in the open, just look up.

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:47 am

Dan McKenzie wrote: some right out in the open, just look up.

Gotcha!

Rod Martin · Post by **Rod Martin** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:37 pm

So is his show [30 min campain ad ] going to be on nation wide or just for special people.
staying away from fed. money for his campain has really worked out for him. He has the extra to put on a good push here in the last few days

Rod Martin · Post by **Rod Martin** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:39 pm

Dan , are you pointing at harv, I hope you,re not pointing at me

Dan McKenzie · Post by **Dan McKenzie** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:22 pm

Rod,
Not pointing at you. I know your a decent person, your fishing partners' dad does some work for me from time to time fixing some of our machines, tells me what a generous person you are. I knew you were a big softy!

hrvestuff · Post by **hrvestuff** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:24 pm

Dan , are you pointing at harv, I hope you,re not pointing at me

I could care less the reason for the voter not voting for Obama. If it is pure racism...then - whatever it takes as long as Obama goes down. "Racism" is an over-used term by the liberals when someone disagrees with them. I won't vote for a shaveheaded white supremist, nor will I vote for a black panther member. Does that make me a racist ?? If so, then I am glad I am a racist..... I am also very proud that I am a white Scandanavian....so does that also make me a racist???? I think Barack Hussein Obama, Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton are racists. At the same time I think Bill Cosby, Tiger Woods, Tony Gwynn represent an ignored community of blacks in this country who are in touch with reality and serve as good Americans. Am I a racist because I support and encourage all to vote YES on 8 in California...??? Well, just mayube I am a racist- but if so...there is nothing you can do about it. It is what it is......................

hrvestuff-

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:30 pm

hrvestuff wrote:
Dan , are you pointing at harv, I hope you,re not pointing at me
Am I a racist because I support and encourage all to vote YES on 8 in California...???

No, of course not that means you're in the closet

Dan McKenzie · Post by **Dan McKenzie** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:16 pm

we are of our own making. you paint a clear picture of yourself for others to see. phobias, of any kind are difficult to deal with, I empathize with your situation.
Good Luck.

bss_hunter · Post by **bss_hunter** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:52 am

hrve, U really do disturb me....it's obvious that you don't feel a black man should ever be president and I do appreciate that you are finally done using false reasons not to vote for obama and have finally put yourself out there as a racist, but u're still hiding behind a screen name, so if you're willing to show ur true colors then please post ur real name and be man....it's easy to post hatred online hiding behind a screen name, but if u r really proud of being a white scandinavian then maybe u should post who you really are........ because I doubt u would ever say these things face to face...man to man

Ringer · Post by **Ringer** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:29 am

My name is Glen Harwell. Now post your name you California girlyman. I have a great appreciation for people from Mexico and their culture but I am also bright enough to understand that 5 MILLION of the 20 MILLION mortgages in default were owned by illegal aliens and since I do like my country I am definitely against illegal immigration. It has destroyed our economy. The racist tag is used primarily as a political tool to suppress free and open discussion IMO. I love the old call out from behind the keyboard trick. Be careful calling men out you never met.

hrvestuff · Post by **hrvestuff** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:31 am

bs_hunter said:

hrve, U really do disturb me....it's obvious that you don't feel a black man should ever be president and I do appreciate that you are finally done using false reasons not to vote for obama and have finally put yourself out there as a racist, but u're still hiding behind a screen name, so if you're willing to show ur true colors then please post ur real name and be man....it's easy to post hatred online hiding behind a screen name, but if u r really proud of being a white scandinavian then maybe u should post who you really are........ because I doubt u would ever say these things face to face...man to man

Being opposed to a guy like Barack Hussein Obama as Commander-in-Chief of our Armed Forces has nothing to do with him being black. I thought Colin Powell was good General, I would vote for a guy like Thomas Sowell, I would like to see Bill Cosby at a high post in government.......My opposition to Obama is based not only on his record as a gutless, two-faced legislator, but his statements and voting records regarding our military forces and their achievements. "Our troops are bombing villages and killing babies in Afghanistan"......"the surge is an experiement in futility"..
"the terrorist's have some legitimate issues"....ad infinitum. Not to mention his past stated positions on gun ownership, gay marriage.
If you judge him by his social and business associations alone, it should disqualify him from holding any high office let along having access to military secrets. William Ayers? Jeremiah Wright? Tony Rezko? These are his stated "mentors"..... a real American?? I think not. You doubt that I would ever make these statements "man to man" ? As Ringer referred to you as a "girlyman" he is likley on target.

Jeff C. · Post by **Jeff C.** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 8:04 am

Hey Hrvestuff, glad to see you're finally coming clean on your tendencies. Truth be told, most of us already knew your true motivations for opposing Obama. That was quite clear when you posted your racist joke that was removed by the moderators several months ago.

The fact is, your use of Obama's middle name clearly reveals your motivations. Seriously, what are you trying to point out by addressing him by his middle name? Hussein is a very common Middle Eastern name and it was given to him at birth by his father who was of Middle Eastern descent. If you are using that name to suggest we shouldn't vote for him because of his Middle Eastern heritage then you in fact are a racist. That would be no different than saying we shouldn't vote for him because he is a black man.

Jeff C. · Post by **Jeff C.** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 8:32 am

Ringer wrote: but I am also bright enough to understand that 5 MILLION of the 20 MILLION mortgages in default were owned by illegal aliens

Where did you get that figure, Ringer? That sounds like some bulls1t you might have heard on talk radio. I would guess that the majority of defaults are from speculators who originally bought the properties to flip them and then just walked away when they owed more than they were worth.

It's hilarious that Conservatives are trying to blame the Democrats for this mess. Let's see, the Republicans held congress 12 of the last 14 years and the Presidency for 8 years. Republicans are against government regulation and would rather the market regulate itself. Well, the current state of things is directly due to the lack of oversight over the last decade pushed by Conservatives. Anyone with half a brain can see that, and that's why the "Republican" brand will be toxic for a very, very long time.

hrvestuff · Post by **hrvestuff** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 8:58 am

Jeff C. wrote:

Seriously, what are you trying to point out by addressing him by his middle name? Hussein is a very common Middle Eastern name and it was given to him at birth by his father who was of Middle Eastern descent

I wonder why Jeff C is so sensitive about Barack Hussein Obama's middle name. Would it be because it is a Muslim name given by his father who was a Muslim. Is it because Barack Hussein Obama wrote in his book "in a time of crisis I will side with Islam" ? Obama is also an Islamic name, as is "Muhammed" which is Brarack's name as well. I use his middle name as it is a reminder of who we are dealing with, where he came from and where his loyalties are hidden. Nothing more.

Jeff C. · Post by **Jeff C.** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:23 am

hrvestuff wrote:I use his middle name as it is a reminder of who we are dealing with, where he came from and where his loyalties are hidden. Nothing more.

I rest my case.

Dan McKenzie · Post by **Dan McKenzie** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:23 am

The name Hussein isn't muslim. It is a Semetic name, it means "good" or "handsome" I'm sure you already knew that, right? Barack (Barak) is a Semetic word as well, if your familiar with the bible you will be familiar with the name, in Hebrew it means to "bless" or "blessing"

You should also know that 14 out of our 43 Presidents had Semetic names. And of course we have some great Americans like Gen. Bradley (Omar is his first name)

But somehow I think you don't really care, am I right?

Dan McKenzie · Post by **Dan McKenzie** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:31 am

I don't know your first name, but if it is Harvey, then you and Barack share the distinction of your names being Semetic.
Now that is interesting, isn't it? You don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.

Dan McKenzie · Post by **Dan McKenzie** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:34 am

by the way, John is Semetic.

and if being related to a muslim is some sort of disqualification, McCains daughter from Bangladesh is almost certainly related to muslims, and that would mean John McCain is connected to them as well.

Your logic is somewhat interesting Harvey.

StockOption · Post by **StockOption** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:42 am

LOL

Hello...it's HIS name.

Why would anyone take offense on either side to using someone's full and proper name?

I guess most of you think it's OK to refer to McCain as McSame? That's not disrespectful at all right? Calling the junior senator by his full name is clearly more offensive...right...that makes perfect sense

You better get over your hang-up on hearing his full and proper name. If he is elected expect to hear it a lot.

After all it is HIS name right?

Jeesh.......

Dan McKenzie · Post by **Dan McKenzie** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:52 am

Calling McCain McSame is disrespectful, but certainly not racial.
But you already kew that, didn't you?

Dan McKenzie · Post by **Dan McKenzie** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:56 am

how come I have never seen you refer to John S. McCain by his full and proper name? Or George W. Bush.

I guess it's only required when your a Jr. Senator.

StockOption, do you want to play semantics?

Jeff C. · Post by **Jeff C.** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:02 am

StockOption wrote:LOL

Hello...it's HIS name.

Why would anyone take offense on either side to using someone's full and proper name?

I guess most of you think it's OK to refer to McCain as McSame? That's not disrespectful at all right? Calling the junior senator by his full name is clearly more offensive...right...that makes perfect sense

You better get over your hang-up on hearing his full and proper name. If he is elected expect to hear it a lot.

After all it is HIS name right?

Jeesh.......

Harvey himself summed it up... he uses Obama's middle name to suggest that we shouldn't vote for him because his ancestors are Muslim. That's a bigoted and racist statement, plain and simple. Thats no different than saying we shouldn't vote for a candidate because he's black, or Jewish, or Catholic, whatever.

Jeff C. · Post by **Jeff C.** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:07 am

StockOption wrote: You better get over your hang-up on hearing his full and proper name. If he is elected expect to hear it a lot.

After all it is HIS name right?

Jeesh.......

Too true, I look forward to hearing his full name for the next 8 years. In fact, I fully expect to hear his title as well:

President Barack Hussein Obama!

I love the sound of that, how about you?

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:12 am

hrvestuff · Post by **hrvestuff** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:14 am

Only those who never served, those who disdain the military and it's accomplishments and those who are praying for a life of getting something for nothing at the expense of others would enjoy a Commander-in-Chief who's name was Barack Hussein Obama, given his record and (accomplishments?????). What qualifications has that SOB have for C-in-C.?????????????????????/

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:21 am

hrvestuff wrote:What qualifications has that SOB have for C-in-C.?????????????????????/

Hmm you are talking about the guy you voted the last two times for I bet. You're in the wrong forum. You're all mixed up.

Dan McKenzie · Post by **Dan McKenzie** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:31 am

I would say it would be as uniquely American as
Abraham Lincoln's name is. And while we're on the subject, doesn't anyone else find it interesting how Barack and Abraham share many traits (other than both names being semetic) and similar experience before becoming President of the United States. Now Palin would disagree because the vision she shares with her AIP brethren is uniquely different than what most Americans want for our country. McCain on the otherhand would have contested Abrahams record of accomplishments prior to becoming President as profoundly lacking of experience, and let's remember there is no time for OJT.

Ringer · Post by **Ringer** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:00 pm

Jeff-I read in the AZ Republic last week that the hispanic realtors association is claiming that 47% of ALL hispanic owned mortgages are in default or foreclosure. Kind of a high number if no illegals were holding mortgages. I also read an article last week that one small investor group in Vegas had 91 mortgages for a value of 21 million dollars and that they used illegals to obtain the mortgages then kicked back a taste of the money to them. Use your google function and do some research if you can pull your head out of the sand long enough.

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:11 pm

Found a photo of hrvestuff

Dan McKenzie · Post by **Dan McKenzie** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:03 pm

wrong again Harvey,

Only those who never served, those who disdain the military and it's accomplishments and those who are praying for a life of getting something for nothing at the expense of others would enjoy a Commander-in-Chief who's name was Barack Hussein Obama, given his record and (accomplishments?????). What qualifications has that SOB have for C-in-C.?????????????????????/

I served, I have zero disdain, I've worked my entire life without even so much as collecting unemployment compensation, I expect far more from myself than my government. Obama meets all of the qualifications set forth in the U.S. Constitution.

Your making a habit out of being wrong, maybe you should try George Costanzas' idea, do the complete opposite of every instinct you have, your luck might change.

Good Luck.

FishaHallic · Post by **FishaHallic** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:29 pm

Greg_Cornish wrote:Found a photo of hrvestuff

bss_hunter · Post by **bss_hunter** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:33 pm

Mr. Harwell, i understand that u and hrve are married and that u do not appreciate me calling out ur man, but I think u and hrve should both get ur facts straight before spreading false data everywhere U still don't have any evidence to back up ur original claim.....and I doubt u will provide any.......beacause its not true

hrvestuff · Post by **hrvestuff** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:43 pm

bs-hunter said:

Mr. Harwell, i understand that u and hrve are married

It is obvious that bs_hunter (by this and previous quotes) considers marriage between to males an acceptable lifestyle ? ? Oh well , each to his own pleasures......................
-hrvestuff

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:44 pm

hrvestuff wrote:bs-hunter said:
...Oh well , each to his own pleasures......................
-hrvestuff

There that wasn't so difficult now was it?

Jeff C. · Post by **Jeff C.** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:16 pm

Ringer wrote:
...but I am also bright enough to understand that 5 MILLION of the 20 MILLION mortgages in default were owned by illegal aliens and since I do like my country I am definitely against illegal immigration...

Jeff-I read in the AZ Republic last week that the hispanic realtors association is claiming that 47% of ALL hispanic owned mortgages are in default or foreclosure. Kind of a high number if no illegals were holding mortgages. I also read an article last week that one small investor group in Vegas had 91 mortgages for a value of 21 million dollars and that they used illegals to obtain the mortgages then kicked back a taste of the money to them. Use your google function and do some research if you can pull your head out of the sand long enough.

So... what you're saying is you pulled that number of 5 million homes in default from illegals out of your a$$?

Let me tell you why that number is bull. By most estimates, the number of illegal aliens in the U.S. is about 12 million. You're such a fan of google, see for yourself: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 03040.html

So if what you are saying is correct, 60% of every man, woman and child here illegally have managed to earn enough money picking lettuce to buy their own house, only to lose that house to foreclosure.

Gee, do you get your news from the same place as Harvestuff? I'm beginning to see why some people vote Republican. Why don't you think for yourself instead of believing some mindless garbage you heard from Savage or wherever you got that information?

hrvestuff · Post by **hrvestuff** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:49 pm

JeffC said:

Why don't you think for yourself instead of believing some mindless garbage you heard from Obama or wherever you got that information?

That is the same question that is asked of thousands of Obamaboomers each day.....what are you Jeff, a copy cat?????...can't you ask an original question..........................?

-hrvestuff

bss_hunter · Post by **bss_hunter** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 8:43 pm

if by to you mean two then yes hrve ur right I think that's fine, Unlike u i am not a bigot.....I don't think you realize how foolish you sound every time you post, It's unreal how stupid you are....I don't even get offended by the hateful things you post because ur stupidity makes me feel sorry for you

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 8:49 pm

I assigning you both to a bi-partisan committee.

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:13 am

Do we really need name calling on these boards?

Ringer · Post by **Ringer** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:07 pm

I found the percentage of subprime for hispanics and blacks. I will find the number of homes in default and the source. This is from AZcentral.com.

Montgomery, who heads the Federal Housing Administration, told members of the National Association of Hispanic Real Estate Professionals on Sunday that according to the most recent data, 47 percent of Hispanic homebuyers were issued subprime-mortgage loans in 2006. That's compared with 18 percent for non-Hispanic Whites.

Only African-American homebuyers received a higher percentage of subprime loans - 48 percent - in 2006.

It is obvious that people of color who were in the lower income neighborhoods were targeted by companies like BofA for subprime loans. And don't call me bi-partison! I like women and I don't live in California.

Ringer · Post by **Ringer** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:11 pm

Here is the rest of what I heard on the ... opment.

Ringer · Post by **Ringer** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 2:33 pm

Jeff? Bss? Don't you two owe me an apology? I suppose you like illegals so much that you feel it is justified for them to take down the US economy? You two would not expect the federal government to bail your state out of your 7 billion dollar deficit would you? Maybe all of the illegals will be willing to chip in because taxpayers in other states are not responsible for your spending problem.

StockOption · Post by **StockOption** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:59 pm

Greg_Cornish wrote:Do we really need name calling on these boards?

No, we need more derogatory pictures

Sometimes you amaze me.

LOL

StockOption · Post by **StockOption** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:22 pm

Gee....where did hrvestuff's picture go?

Huh...it just disappeared.

What a surprise.

LOL

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:37 pm

StockOption wrote:Gee....where did hrvestuff's picture go?

Huh...it just disappeared.

What a surprise.

LOL

I still see it. LOL LOL there I out LOLed you. ??

Jeff C. · Post by **Jeff C.** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:14 pm

Ringer wrote:Some five million fraudulent home mortgages are in the hands of illegal aliens, according to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.

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BULL SH1t! Where is your proof of those figures from the US Dept of Housing and Urban Development? Did you not read what I posted? Do you seriously believe that 60% of every man woman and child that is in this country illegally has obtained a mortgage?

Give me a break! Don't you even think about what you're saying before you say it?!

Jeff C. · Post by **Jeff C.** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:25 pm

Ringer wrote:Jeff? Bss? Don't you two owe me an apology? I suppose you like illegals so much that you feel it is justified for them to take down the US economy? You two would not expect the federal government to bail your state out of your 7 billion dollar deficit would you? Maybe all of the illegals will be willing to chip in because taxpayers in other states are not responsible for your spending problem.

Why should I apologize? You were the one who was exposed for posting an outright lie.

I'm waiting, how do you explain your claim that 60% of every man, woman and child in this country illegally have managed to buy a house?

C'mon admit it, you stepped in it big time. I hope you learned your lesson about spouting off bullsh1t that you hear on the radio without checking it out. And although it was tempting I didn't even touch your initial query of "I am bright enough..." nuff said!

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