Palamar knot ok for fluro?

[WANNA HOOK BIGGIN'S]

I am trying fluro (seaguar abrazX) for the first time and I have heard that the palamar knot might cut into itself with the fluro vs other lines. I will be using 20,15,and 12lb if it matters. I usually use braid or yo zuri hybrid and the palamar has never failed me.

Thanks
WHB

[Mike]

You can get away with a Palamar knot on long line techniques. I dont recomend it for flipping where you have a hard shock situation especially in cold water.

[swordfish]

I just read an article in Bass Times and the 6 to 8lb lines had problems with the Palomar with floro some like Aaron Martens uses a single Uni Knot while Klein used Eugene Jam Knot Aaron used to use a San Diego slip knot but switched to the Uni.. Greg Hackney says the Palomar is just fine if tyed carefully, properly and well lubricated. The issue is as I see it is only with light lines. Although I can see the point of the last post on cold water and the shock of a hard hook set in cold water as floro dosent give so to speak..

[WANNA HOOK BIGGIN'S]

You can get away with a Palamar knot on long line techniques. I dont recomend it for flipping where you have a hard shock situation especially in cold water.

Mike, I would primarily be using the 20lb fluro on a curado 200e7 on a Dobyns 735 for flipping and pitching probably most of the time. What knot or line combo can you suggest?

Thanks
WHB

[Kevin Evans - Kap]

I use the improved clinch knot myself for flouro.... and I check my line frequently and re-tie a lot... keep it moist and try to avoid any friction..

Good luck,

Kap

[Mike]

You can get away with a Palamar knot on long line techniques. I dont recomend it for flipping where you have a hard shock situation especially in cold water.

Mike, I would primarily be using the 20lb fluro on a curado 200e7 on a Dobyns 735 for flipping and pitching probably most of the time. What knot or line combo can you suggest?

Thanks
WHB

Thats a great set up. I have been using the trilene know with great success. Make sure to wet the line when pulling it tight and its money! Good luck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSVJb2xR ... re=related

[elfish16]

I use the palomar on my flouro and have no problems. If you don't wet the line when tying you could burn the line and have issues...watched my buddy do that at DVL with me on 20lb Seagaur...i was using 6-10lb and never once broke off fish.

it comes down to anything when tying knots...tie them correctly and you don't have issues.

My 2nd choice is the improved clinch knot.

[toddmc]

As others have said, making sure the knot is perfectly tied and properly wetted is most important with knots. But, the Trilene knot is always stronger than the Palomar with Fluoro. The Palomar will cut the line if maximum pressure is applied. I use a swivel on my dropshot rig with a Palomar at the hook so I can put the tag end through the eye. I tie a Trilene knot at both ends of the swivel. Nearly 100% of the time the Palomar knot is the one that breaks when you get hung up.

[Tin Can]

If a palomar doesn't work well with 6-8lbs test flouro what the heck knot do you use for Dropshot?

I've never had that problem, and I think the palomar is the best knot for a DS rig.

[Kevin Evans - Kap]

I also should add that when using the lighter lb test on a spinning rig I almost always use a reel hookset (dart head, DS) instead of crossing their eyes like with a t-rig...

Kap

[Oldschool]

http://www.tackletour.com/reviewfluorocarbon2.html
Don't know if putting a link on this site is OK, however this link has some good info.
The double SD jam knot (Aaron Martens knot); doubling the line like you start the Palomar knot works good and results in about 90% knot strength, all other knots are about 75-80%. The issue with FC line is permanent line stretch, this affects both the knot strength and line strength during a day on the water.
Tom

[adman]

Without a doubt and with a bunch of lab tests as proof, the "fishin fool" knot which is similar but much stronger than the San Diego knot, find it here NorthAmericanFishing.com
It works great on every line from fluor to braid. Not that hard to tie and you will know if you tied it correctly the minute you tighten it. Give it a try is is killer.

[toddmc]

Oldschool is dead-on about the percentages. The only reason I still use the Palomar on the dropshot hook is because the it sets the hook in the proper position when you put the tag end through. I accept the 15% weaker knot for a hook that stays upright better. I never use the Palomar on other lines or techniques. The Trilene knot has always been flawless for me. I worked in several tackle shops several years ago while I was in college and I used our bulk line to tie different knots to rock cod weights up to five pounds. I would bounce the weights and use things to abuse the line. I quickly found out what knots worked best and what lines were able to take the most abuse. I wish I could do the same tests with all of today's top end fluorocarbon lines.

[fishndp]

Oldschool is dead-on about the percentages. The only reason I still use the Palomar on the dropshot hook is because the it sets the hook in the proper position when you put the tag end through. I accept the 15% weaker knot for a hook that stay upright better. I never use the Palomar on other lines or techniques. The Trilene knot has always been flawless for me. I worked in several tackle shops several years ago while I was in college and I used our bulk line to tie different knots to rock cod weights up to five pounds. I would bounce the weights and use things to abuse the line. I quickly found out what knots worked best and what lines were able to take the most abuse. I wish I could do the same tests with all of today's top end fluorocarbon lines.

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