Outdoors HOF Snubs Larry Viviano in favor of Squaw Valley?

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Outdoors HOF Snubs Larry Viviano in favor of Squaw Valley?

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Right now I'm so angry, I probably shouldn't be authoring this rant, but here goes. After nominating Mr. Viviano in March of this past year. The criteria:
1. The nominee must have inspired Californians to take part in the great outdoors or California conservation.
2. The nominee must have taken part in California outdoor adventures of paramount impact.

After consulting with Larry, Dave Rush and Vince Harris and a few others, I authored a great(less than 300 word) biography of what Larry did for California fishing community, and sent it in. There was no way to save "the e-mail" as it was a direct submission from their site, naturally assuming they'd received it. (because there is no return message of nomination received) Months go by and nothing. Finally in November (candidates are not voted on until December), I contact COHOF, inquiring about my nomination. Well, of course they changed something to do with their web page and lost ALL nominations. With no way to contact the nominators, it was an OH Well, resubmit the nomination. So to scramble to meet their deadline (typical of writers having deadlines :lol: ) I resubmit, but again there's a problem, this time the form asks for attachments, so I try to attach the Silver Eagles Magazine WCB story. Anyway I digress (told you this was a rant)
So today I check their web site and low and behold we have a Fishing Guide/Tournament angler and 2 Squaw Valley folks total of 3. I get the Squaw Valley, but a guide over a gentleman who invented the Pro Am concept in California, that is now used nationwide, jump started the careers of Gary Dobyns, Bobby Barrack, Kent Brown COHOF 2020 inductee (whose bio reads "he virtually has fished every bass lake in the western United States" thanks in part to Larry imo and was once employed by Larry), planted thousands of Florida strain bass with Dennis Lee in California waters that he purchased with his own money. The West Coast Bass Classic which brought revenue and media attention to the Sacramento area........... over a guide? This was a no brainer. Guess the writers have to stick together.
Larry told me he would be blocked by one or more of the previous recipients, but I didn't believe him. Not even sure he made it past the nomination process.
Don't get me wrong, there are many deserving past inductees, like Bill Rice, Dee Thomas, Tom Stienstra, Bob Franko and others, but Larry Viviano should also be there too.

I want everyone one to know that this rant is mine and mine alone, and Larry has no knowledge of me authoring it. To me it's an outdoor writers clique and I had enough of cliques when I was in High School.
f you have a billion dollars to by a ski resort, your in. (Olympics or not), but don't change Bass fishing nationwide.
To quote Gary Dobyns "I can't understand why Larry Viviano isn't in the HOF". I agree.
My apologies to Larry who is dealing with the effects of agent orange from his serving time in Vietnam.
I'm sure I'll hear from lots of folks including those from the COHOF, but I'm ready. :)
Too bad 2024 is staring so bad, especially with no electricity, but that my friends is another story for another time.
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Ed:

I can understand your frustration of your nomination of Larry Viviano to the COHOF and his not being put in this year. I can assure you his name was on the nomination list and ballot that goes out to all of the former inductees each year. I saw it and voted.

I have to say that because Larry wasn't inducted you are off base by questioning JD Richey"s induction and his qualifications. He is one of the top guides in the state and has made a living guiding and writing for over 35 years. He is a premier seminar speaker and has done that throughout the West and has publised books and hundreds of magazine articles in top publications like Salmon Trout and Steelheader and Outdoor Life to name a few. He has also served on numerous committees on conservation and fought many battles when they were trying to take our fishing rights away in the past including the Executive VP of the Nor Cal Guides and Sportsmen's Association who put on one of the largest fundraisers annually to protect our fisheries and waters. Enough about JD he doesn't deserve to be questioned on his qualifications for this honor he more than deserves and qualifies for it. AS for the Squaw Valley folks I really don't know but remember the COHOF is made up of more than anglers and hunters.

As for my induction in 2020 I am pretty sure my qualifications were a bit longer than "fished every bass lake in CA" and my 4 year employment at West Coast Bass.....

I agree that Larry did do a great deal for our sport and there are long list of folks that could and should be on that list and for me to be on any list with Dee Thomas I am humbled and honored. Larry was on the nomination list this year he just didn't get the number of votes to get his induction this year. That doesn't mean he can't be nominated again and I am sure you did a great job in the presentation you put together for that. There have been a lot of folks that didn't get in on their first nomination myself included. I am sure there were many that voted for Larry and if you have been around this game for any time there is always going to be those that won't vote for ya either but I am confident in saying that he wasn't blocked in any way.

I hope this clears up some of your questions Mr. Ackerman I appreciate your passion and willingness to nominate Larry for the California Outdoor Hall of Fame. Hope to see you at the show this week in Sacramento.
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Not sure about the rest buuuuut... if there is an Outdoor Writer's clique, they forgot to invite me :(

Or maybe I've just to talked too much NFL smack to Bobby, and Gary and I got blocked. Now... KB I don't know :shock:
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Thanks for the insight KB. Not going to go over the tet for tat reasoning with you. When I see something wrong, I'll speak my mind. No one is taking away Mr. Ritchey's accomplishments, however Larry as a first ballot is a no brainer. Where would several of the Ind....nevermind, I said I wasn't going to get into a tet for tat trap and I'm not.
This was a no brainer and I'm sorry to say in my opinion it stinks.
Have a great show.
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Outing you? Is your identity a mystery??? 🤷‍♂️
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Larry surely belongs in the HOF for CA. I'm not sure as I don't know who's in and who's not, but Don Lee should be in as well. These two guys made a huge impact on our sport in CA. Dennis Lee is another one, but I assume that he's been inducted already. Dennis Lee was very "pro tournament" and worked well with our circuits. Having someone like Dennis in Dept Fish & Game was huge. IMHO these three guys are no brainers.
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[quote=backseatfishergirl post_id=685118 time=1705526700 user_id=21781]
Not sure about the rest buuuuut... if there is an Outdoor Writer's clique, they forgot to invite me :(

Or maybe I've just to talked too much NFL smack to Bobby, and Gary and I got blocked. Now... KB I don't know :shock:
[/quote]

Way too much smack!!! You're rotten to the core :D :D :D :D
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Thanks for piping in Gary. You're right. All 3 should be inducted and not one of those guys are in, much less nominated. It doesn't surprise me that KB hadn't ever thought of nominating Larry, Don or Dennis in the past. I understand there may be bad blood there (as far as Larry is concerned).
KB says you can submit him again. Really! You just told the guy your not worthy of induction because you didn't get enough votes, not you didn't qualify, not you didn't do enough for the outdoors.....blah blah blah, but try again and we'll reevaluate you. Come on man!
Anyway, it's my opinion that the COHOF and its inductees are a little more diminished today........... and that's a shame.
Over and out.
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Sorry for the hijack on a side tangent ...

Gary - Is it really smack if there are the RINGS to back it up? Just saying.
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