Let's hear your frog modification secrets!

[Tm Customs]

Well I know alot of guys will boil there frogs to get them softer and seal the holes off w/ silicone, but how do you get them to walk better? If you guy's have any good frog modifications I would like to hear about them.

My Favorite....
Boil your snag proof weed demon for 2 minutes add a Gammy frog hook and seal it off w/ some black e6100 you can also add a bit of sticky weight to the back for improved casting and a better walk. This bait will walk for days!

[Brian Linehan]

*NM*

[Andy Giannini]

Coolest one was this, the main hook only offered so many chances at hooking up. Adding a trailer hook, increased hookups, but gained more weeds, and changed the balance of the bait. How to increase potential hookups, but keep it snag free? I was playing with the trailer hook, with no surgical tubing on it, and slid it up to the body of the bait and rotated so that the two hooks opposed each other like a wire weedguard! How to keep it in place became the next problem. That was easy after a few trys. I put on surgical tubing like most guys do to cover the eye of the trailer, but left it long like a half an inch or less. Penetrate the trailer eye, and before passing the barb on the main hook penetrate one side of the tag tubing. Run the main hook on up through the tag tubing until the trailer hook rotates around facing opposite the main and the two hook affair now looks like a wire weed guard set up on a jig. Two hooks opposing each other, each protecting the other from snags, and if a fish bites down, they stick out like grappling hooks! The weight disposition is protected and you still get weedlessness and one more chance at a hookup. If the fish does connect with the tubed up trailer, it is wet and slides right back around to the normal trailer hook position and you catch the fish. The tubing acts as a retention device and also as the spring that seperates the two hooks keeping them ready for the next bite. This idea of two hooks weedless, that oppose each other could also be applied to other baits like blades for example.

I really like it, but at the time Chad Spence said it was too labor intensive to rig the things like that for production. You just can't fart around while trying to package X amount of units.

But Snag Proof came along, and just took over the market share with the "Tournament Frog". (I bought up a TON of Strike Kings!)

A.G.

[Tm Customs]

I know boiling them helps sealing them helps ask bobby! Want to get more hook ups you gotta wrench on these frogs. Thanks for the tralier hook idea if I can figure it out 100% I am gonna try it.

[Andy Giannini]

The Strike king was a special deal with one main hook, a body and legs to protect it, and an aluminum frame that held the main hook and gave you a split ring to tie to. The Snag proof type products are entirely a different animal, and it is unlikely the two hook affair described could be applied to these baits.

It is fun to fart around with the different frogs, and I sometimes wonder how many decent baits were wasted experimenting around.

Part of the fun.

A.G.

[rickyshabazz]

Definitely change the hooks to the gamus, add additional weight inside with either brass shot gun pellets or small split shots, add two worm rattles, silicone the butt so water doesn’t leak in, cut the legs down to 4 or 5 strands, bend the hooks out, and tie the legs with braid so that they flare out. This usually allows the frog to spit and walk the dog at the same time. The trick is that 1 out of 12 is a freak of nature, while the rest just do a great job. The trick is to create the freak.

[Calistar]

Went to the Kent Brown Seminar out at Fisherman's Warehouse in Rocklin last friday. He proposed trimming 1/3rd of the strands from the legs (if you are using the regular snagproof frog) and then putting thick stripes across the remaining strands with a black marker....kinda like a zebra effect.

kb puts on an informative clinic and is always glad to answer questions. Check him out when you get the chance.

[Larry Douglas]

What am I missing here?

The idea of sealing the frog's body to make it watertight isn't computing in my brain! By sealing the body of the frog, aren't you, in essence, making the frog much more difficult to compress during the bite? Kinda like the difference in squeezing an intact tennis ball, versus one that has a slit cut in it!

Just a thought, but wouldn't it be more effective by sealing the hole at the rear of the frog, and punching holes around the eye area, since the eyes remain above water, while the butt is under water?

For informational purposes only, my most effective frog modification, is to insert an M-80 into the cavity of the frog, with a compression activated trigger mechanism. It's not a good tactic for catch and release, but the "bite to catch" ratio is amazing!


Larry Douglas

[rickyshabazz]

Sealing the hole doesn't completely stop the air. However, the air goes in the head and out the legs, which is what I want. I don't like having to squeeze the water out of the frog and what I really accomplish is that the frog SITS and LANDS the way that I want it to in the water!!!!! Ultimately allowing the frog to Spit and walk the dog because it is sitting lower in the water.

TO answer your question, no it doesn't compact IF you know how to do it right. Any more info and I'll have to charge for a guide trip-LOL

[massbaster]

Try using a sumo frog, they are alot softer than the snagproof frogs allowing for more hook ups, but they do get tore up alot faster because of this. The short rubber legs that hold the skirt in place are solid unlike the snagproofs .you can trim them down to about 1/8 or 1/16 of an inch from the body without using any silicone to hold them in place. However if you do cut to close you will have to use silicone. Also make sure to trim the skirt down alot on these frogs because they are very long from the factory, maybe leave about 2" on each side. This frog walks very good when modified this way, just make short snaps with the rod and make sure to leave slack after each snap of the rod.

p.s The black one is deadly on the delta any time of day, good luck!