Best Fluorocarbon line for the money???

BigBossMan · Post by **BigBossMan** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:18 am

I know it has been asked before but with so many fluorocarbon lines on the market, what would be the best fluoro line for the money? Thanks...

StockOption · Post by **StockOption** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:27 am

I've been using Seaguar InvisX for a while now and have had very few problems. Primarily I use 10-20 lb test. It's not the cheapest, but so far I've been very happy with its performance and durability.

BigBossMan · Post by **BigBossMan** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:46 am

Would I be wasting my money with P-line Fluorocarbon, Maxima fluoro or Berkley Vanish. I don't know if it's a misprint but Tackle Warehouse has Triple Fish Fluoro for 4# @ $4.99 - 25# @ $11.99 200 yards.
How would these fluoro's rate? Or, you get what you pay for?

FISHIN · Post by **FISHIN** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:10 pm

P-line all the way. 6lb. 15lb. 20lb. will cover most of your fishing needs

L Dub · Post by **L Dub** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:17 pm

I'm starting to HATE p-line. Maybe it's just me, but there's WAAAAY to much memory/ it's too stiff. I do like Maxima though. Very sensitive. When I put it on my loomis gl3 rod, I feel like I have sonar!

Mikey D · Post by **Mikey D** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:21 pm

I have used the Berkley Vanish for quite a while now and think it works just fine for the price. I also like the fact that it has very little memory for a floro line.

If spooled correctly on a spinning rod it works great too!

M. Warner · Post by **M. Warner** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:30 pm

P line has too much memory, maxima is awesome stuff, vanish is pretty good, but my first choice is always GAMMA, the floro is pretty expensive, but on mead i always just use the copolymer. just my .02

MrSkeeter · Post by **MrSkeeter** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:33 pm

For MY MONEY, I buy the Cabelas ProLine Fluorocarbon. Cannot beat that $25 for 1850 yards of 6# test or 1575 yards of 8# test. Plus their lines are EXCELLENT! Been using them for 2-3 years already.

not4un · Post by **not4un** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:46 pm

I use yo-zuri and have never had a problem with it. It is very strong

Mitch · Post by **Mitch** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:33 pm

Finally somebody who has the right answer..............Yozuri Hybred has to be the best for my money. STRONG STUFF........LOW MEMORY !!

W.C · Post by **W.C** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:42 pm

BigBossMan!!! Don't wast your money on P-line Floro. Its sucks. aside from what the otheres have said about line memory and stiffness, It also gets brittal and when you least expect it, it will break off on a hook set. But Don't take my word for it BBM! just go out and have one rod spooled up in P-Line Floro and othere in Maxima Floro and see the differance for your self. try them both out for more that just one trip and you will see. what i say is a fact.
Sure i would'nt mine Sagar floro or Sagui but i'm not going to spend $21 plus on a filler spool , I don't like to throw my money away! believe me when i tell you that I try almost everything and even "Vanish" sucks thats why they had to try a different formula a few year ago. I Fish a heck of alot so i'm not BS'n you when i give you this info. Maxima Florocarbin is the best line i have used and for the price , you cant beat it. but if you want cheaper than that go with Yosury florocarbin. its not bad for the price but i would only use it for pre-fishing. anyways that is just my 2 cents and words to live by. If you do try Maxima Floro, send me and E-Mail with the thanks for the info and a Check so that i can buy myself some more. lol Maxima is one of the most sensitive and strongest floros on the Market espiecally the 8# test. thats some strong line Booooy!!!

MIKE TREMONT · Post by **MIKE TREMONT** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:47 pm

I'm with MRSKEETER. The Cablelas stuff is a great buy. I have given up on the Vanish from my experience and watching my partners wows this past weekend.

Blue_R70 · Post by **Blue_R70** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:13 pm

Mitch wrote:Finally somebody who has the right answer..............Yozuri Hybred has to be the best for my money. STRONG STUFF........LOW MEMORY !!

Yo-Zuri Hybrid is actually a nylon/fluoro blend. Yes, it's good stuff but not a pure fluorocarbon line...

Pat · Post by **Pat** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:21 pm

I like the Stren Flourocarbon

Pat

Nlvbassin · Post by **Nlvbassin** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:27 pm

Plain and simple Seaguar InvisX.

Nlvbassin · Post by **Nlvbassin** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:27 pm

Plain and simple Seaguar InvisX.

Johnny C · Post by **Johnny C** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:37 pm

Gamma Edge is in a class by itself..Period

Mike · Post by **Mike** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:51 pm

I'm still cant decide between InvizX and Gamma. I like them both, and have not had any breakage problems. I did get on awesome backlash that I had to cut out with the Gamma though

There went $15.00. Not sure if it was opperator error or the line. Havnt had a problem with the Seaguar.

jeff bradshaw · Post by **jeff bradshaw** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:14 pm

I've been using Berkley Vanish for years on spinnerbaits, senkos and much else and have had great results.

nipples · Post by **nipples** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:59 pm

I use Berkley Vanish and the Cabelas ProLine Fluorocarbon. Both have served me well with no problems. I'm still on the fence as far as which I like better, both are about equal.

HawgCatcher · Post by **HawgCatcher** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:07 pm

I have been using the Vanish Transition for a while now and I haven't had any problrms with it.

SethB · Post by **SethB** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:21 pm

Hey HawgCatcher, Does that Transition line Show up under a black light?

SethB · Post by **SethB** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:28 pm

I like the Maxima floro, But Its about $20 for about 200yrds. Good line though. If the water is a little stained The YO-SURI Hybrid line is cheap and sensitive.

SethB · Post by **SethB** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:28 pm

I like the Maxima floro, But Its about $20 for about 200yrds. Good line though. If the water is a little stained The YO-SURI Hybrid line is cheap and sensitive.

nipples · Post by **nipples** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:30 pm

Transition does not show up under black light, and none of my fluorocarbon lines do.... Best line for blacklight is Trilene XL Flo Clear Blue... It looks like rope under a black light.

aNNieNsaLTIE · Post by **aNNieNsaLTIE** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:42 pm

Are you going to use flurocarbon as a main line?

i have had a few rods loaded with flurocarbon and it was for ripbaits, spinnerbaits, and jigs. But nowadays i used mainly braid but still with a flurocarbon leader. I use P-Line and it nevers nails me. if i were to toss out a topwater lure and do a ton of casting, not worry about the inconsistency performance braid offers, I like this new mono called Toray. Great stuff.
saLTIE-

Rick K of Ca · Post by **Rick K of Ca** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:10 pm

At this time I would say the best out there is the Gamma.

justin lucas · Post by **justin lucas** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:23 pm

Best line for the money are definitely the key words here. Berkley Vanish is hands down the answer to this question! Wal-Mart sales it for as cheap as it gets. I have yet to have a problem with Vanish. It is very limp, strong, and great knot strength (keep in mind you have to wet it before cinching the knot). I have the hardest problem breaking off when I am hung up sometimes that it almost gets annoying. That is definitely a good thing though! Best of luck!

Cooch · Post by **Cooch** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:33 pm

If'n yer looking for the best buy fer yer buck, the Berkeley Transition is outstanding, and like Justin said, can be bought at Wal-Mart!!!!!

If you want the best fluoro yer money can by, go with Koreah Chemical's Sugoi, OEM'd fer Yamamoto.

MrSkeeter · Post by **MrSkeeter** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:19 pm

Cooch wrote:If'n yer looking for the best buy fer yer buck, the Berkeley Transition is outstanding, and like Justin said, can be bought at Wal-Mart!!!!!

Cooch,

Wait, Walmart sells Transistion for $15-16 per spool of 250 yards. That's 6 cents/yard. But that's WAY more expensive than the Cabelas ProLine Fluorocarbon at $25 per 1,850 yards for 6# or 1575 yards for 8# test. This means that the Cabelas ProLine Fluorocarbon is only 1.4 ~ 1.6 cents per yard or roughly 1/4th the cost of Transition from Walmart!!. So how can that Transition line be the best bang for the buck?!

lionkiller · Post by **lionkiller** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:37 pm

L Dub wrote:I'm starting to HATE p-line. Maybe it's just me, but there's WAAAAY to much memory/ it's too stiff. I

I 2nd that! I have a spool of 17# which I'll use to tie up the pea plants this summer....I sure ain't fishin with that anchor rope any more.

Mike Meier · Post by **Mike Meier** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:42 pm

I have tried the triple fish and it breaks to easy. I tried the 4,6, and 8 it all snapped to easily.

Mike

bassdude28 · Post by **bassdude28** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:04 am

Just my $.02. I use Vanish, Trasition, and Yo-zuri and have never had any problems with them. I have used the Stren before and broke off way too many times. I also tried P-line once and won't use it ever again for the reasons listed above. Stick with Berkeley Vanish and Transition and you really can't go wrong with those.

MrSkeeter · Post by **MrSkeeter** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:06 am

Mike Meier wrote:I have tried the triple fish and it breaks to easy. I tried the 4,6, and 8 it all snapped to easily.

Guys,

I would suggest you revisit your knot when using light line Fluorocarbon. I had the same breakoff problem when I first started using fluoro ... I would tie it onto the hook, pull and it would breakoff in my hands. I initially blamed it on the line, but as it turns out, it was the knot I was using (Palomar). Since then I've switched to the San Diego knot and I've had very little problems with breakage.

In fact, just last week, I was swinging 1-2# fish in the boat on 6# test Vanish Transition (I was just testing it out).

I'll say this one more time. When using light line fluorocarbon, DO NOT USE THE PALOMAR KNOT

mark poulson · Post by **mark poulson** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:10 am

The best flouro for the money is Bass Pro Excel Flouro. KVD uses it.
You can buy 1000yds for the same price as three smaller spools of the higher priced flouro, and it fishes the same.

vinnybass · Post by **vinnybass** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:30 am

BPS XPS fluoro. Cheap & good.

B Becker · Post by **B Becker** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:40 am

I use both Maxima and BPS....I have just found that the lighter Maxima is stronger than the BPS.......so I use Maxima 6# and 8#.....and then 10# and higher is BPS.....BPS is very limp and thin....awesome stuff!!!

mac (Doyle McEwen) · Post by **mac (Doyle McEwen)** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:06 am

Hey Chris, I have been using the Palomar knot with my flouro and have had zero problems..Of course I realize I may have problems the next time I go out, but so far I have had none..I know you have had some bad luck with the Palomar knot with flouro, but I keep reading that other people have had none..

mac

MrSkeeter · Post by **MrSkeeter** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:22 am

Mac,

First, I would say that the is more predominate with light line (<10#). Though I believe it still happens with heavier line test (14-17#).

As an experiment, I would like for you to do a test ... the Palomar knot is not all that different than an overhand knot. Basically it wraps over upon itself.

Pick some heavy fluorocarbon line and tie an overhand knot and pull tight. Then perform a shock test on it by pull hard on the line with one hand on each end of the knot. You'd be amazed how easily that line will break.

Now repeat it with nylon mono ... huge difference between fluorocarbon and nylon mono.

When I did this, I was able to snap 20# fluorocarbon by my hand. I have a hard time breaking 8 or 10# nylon mono.

The way I learned this was from trying Vanish. It would break on hookset. After 2-3 times, I threw away the line. I talked to the Berkely rep and he said the 'new' lines are much better and to give it a try again. I did ... broke off at hookset again! Had been a huge proponent of the Palomar then.

Then I began trying different knots. First was a double Palomar and it worked much better. But still would suffer frequent breakoffs at hookset. I did some research and seems like I was not the only one. I ended up settling on the San Diego knot and have had only infrequent breakoffs. Usually it would break up the line rather than at the knot.

DAKINE198 · Post by **DAKINE198** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:03 am

MrSkeeter which Cabelas flouro do you use? No-vis or Proline? And how do you tie a San Diego knot?

MrSkeeter · Post by **MrSkeeter** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:09 am

I use the ProLine fluorocarbon $25 per 1/4 pound spool of line (1850yrds for 6# ~ 750yrds of 15# line. It is definitely the cheapest of all the fluorocarbon lines I've tried and it's great line!!

You can see the knot here

Takes some getting used to tying it. But it's worthwhile. One little "trick" I've learned is to loop the line over your pinky finger and you can use your thumb and index finger to wrap the line.

DAKINE198 · Post by **DAKINE198** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:13 am

what is the difference between the two ( No-vis and Proline)
If price point on the Cabelas brand was not an issue?

DAKINE198 · Post by **DAKINE198** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:19 am

MrSkeeter could you double the line over would it make even more effective on the San Diego knot?

Cooch · Post by **Cooch** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:27 am

I've used Cabela's Fluoro, and like most fluoros I've used, I couldnt git it off my reel fast enough. Some folks have that same opinion with every fluoro out there. I've been using fluoro fer almost 10 years now, I receive a lot of samples and buy new stuff all the time. I have my preferences, and those are what I recommend to others to use. My gauge is the 16-25# lines, and if I break off or feel uncomfy with these, I'm of the opinion that the lighter tests can't possibly be any better from that manufacturer.

RipnRog · Post by **RipnRog** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:35 am

Hey Cooch I have always been a fan of the seguar floro. I am currently in the market to purchase some new 8 pound as that is the only floro I use for all other applications I use regular green maxima. I want to purchase a bulk spool of the floro as the 200 yard fillers just dont do it for me as it seem I always waste about 50 yards of those 200 yard fillers. I was wondering does the Yamamoto Sugoi come in bulk spools like say 1000 yards give or take a little?

Rodger

StockOption · Post by **StockOption** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:44 am

Hey Rip it doesn't appear like Yamamoto offers 8# in bulk:

http://yamamoto.baits.com/cgi-bin/order/

Cooch may know better....I dunno....

RipnRog · Post by **RipnRog** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:49 am

Thanx Stock. I will only buy this stuff in the bulk spool as I know I will waste less of it. the 200 yard spools just dont do it for me.

Rodger

MrSkeeter · Post by **MrSkeeter** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:13 am

DAKINE198 wrote:MrSkeeter could you double the line over would it make even more effective on the San Diego knot?

I'm not sure ... I would imagine that getting the knot together w/ a double line might be somewhat tricky ... I've never tried it. So if you do, please report back here on your experience.

DAKINE198 wrote:what is the difference between the two ( No-vis and Proline)
If price point on the Cabelas brand was not an issue?

I'm not sure about that. When I first bought the ProLine, I was attracted to it because of price. Prior to switching to the Proline fluoro, I was using Seaguar and was looking for a less expensive alternative.

Cooch wrote:My gauge is the 16-25# lines, and if I break off or feel uncomfy with these, I'm of the opinion that the lighter tests can't possibly be any better from that manufacturer.

Cooch, I'll have to agree with you that this ProLine is a bit stiff (especially true w/ heavier line test, >14#'s) and that Vanish is softer; I in fact am trying Vanish right now as well.

BUT ... on a cost basis, the Proline cannot be beat at the lower pound test ... where else can you buy 1,850 yards of (6#) fluoro for $25 (or 1000 yrds of 12# for $25)?

HOWEVER, at the higher line tests (>12#), the Vanish in bulk is equal or slightly cheaper even than the Cabelas Proline.

So, we're BOTH right!

Here's a quick cost analysis of some of the lines mentioned above:
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